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    Quote Originally Posted by Exoter175 View Post
    They absolutely CAN flat bet you in MO, I've seen it happen to a dear friend of mine at a distance of 4 feet.
    Not in MO. At least not LEGALLY. I've studied MO's gaming laws, which is available to the public and I've even posted some of that information here, which Norm has archived.

    I can't even count how many times I've been in Backed Off/Counter-Measured in MO anymore, but I can tell you that I've never been flat bet. I DID have one shift manager attempt to back me off and ask me to leave the casino, but that was not legal on her part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryemo View Post
    Not in MO. At least not LEGALLY. I've studied MO's gaming laws, which is available to the public and I've even posted some of that information here, which Norm has archived.

    I can't even count how many times I've been in Backed Off/Counter-Measured in MO anymore, but I can tell you that I've never been flat bet. I DID have one shift manager attempt to back me off and ask me to leave the casino, but that was not legal on her part.
    Yes in MO. They can, legally, flat bet you by flat betting the entire table, and if you're playing solo, you're the only one affected.

    Legally speaking, they cannot place a counter-measure against a single player, it must be done unilaterally for the entire table. In this case, the PB will walk over and inform the table that during the remainder of their play at the table, they are not allowed to raise their bets. Further, they will go and change the placard with the minimums on it to defense the remark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exoter175 View Post
    Yes in MO. They can, legally, flat bet you by flat betting the entire table, and if you're playing solo, you're the only one affected.

    Legally speaking, they cannot place a counter-measure against a single player, it must be done unilaterally for the entire table. In this case, the PB will walk over and inform the table that during the remainder of their play at the table, they are not allowed to raise their bets. Further, they will go and change the placard with the minimums on it to defense the remark.
    Interesting. Though I have never been to MO, at one store in Atlantic City, I sat down to play and presented my card. I had been flagged for counting (and half-shoed) two and a half years prior, and was hoping they "forgot" about me, and I could play rated again. 3 minutes later, a pit boss or floor person walks over, apologizes to the four of us at the table, and tells us the min max for the table has to be changed from 10 - 1000, to 10 - 10. But everyone who was in the last shoe (everyone other than me) is grandfathered in, and can bet above $10.

    Perhaps it is that they couldn't restrict me alone, but by restricting the whole table, other than people who came within the last 3 minutes (me only), they are in effect doing the same thing. A note that this store doesn't currently exist- the building is closed after it went into bankruptcy.

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