I can’t actually decipher your question as you’re responding to an aceside undecipherable response. However,
1. Yes, your best EV decision may well result in a long term loss for that hand composition
2. The mathematics of surrender are simple enough. If you win =< than 1 in 4 hands, then surrender is warranted
Example for breakeven on hands where surrender is warranted
100 $5 bets, total of $500 at risk.
Win 25 hands, lose 75 hands, or win $125 lose $375 for overall loss of $250
Surrender 100 hands, forfeit half your bet or lose $250.
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