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    I'm sorry, but what you described is not realistic. This will never happen with enough frequency to make money. I realize you feel strongly about your system, but you will bust in the long run. You will ultimately lose everything you bring to the table if you constantly play at a disadvantage.
    You don't score, until you SCORE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr BJ75 View Post
    12-16 depends on my BR. When working with 12 hands, my example, I had a 1000 BR. I will be working with a 16 hand system on my next trip. The highest I can use around here is 8-10, plus there is an ante. The more hands, the better.
    How the fvck does that explain the system at all?

    Imagine if I had just lost like 140 pounds using the #YOLO_DIET that I created. It's a proven system because it works for me. When others ask me, "Tell me about your system...how does it work?" I tell them: "It's the #YOLO Diet. You see, YOLO stands for 'You Only Live Once', which is the principles that this diet is based off of. In the future, I might start working on the #SWAG Diet, as well."
    "Everyone wants to be rich, but nobody wants to work for it." -Ryan Howard [The Office]

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingStoned View Post
    How the fvck does that explain the system at all?

    Imagine if I had just lost like 140 pounds using the #YOLO_DIET that I created. It's a proven system because it works for me. When others ask me, "Tell me about your system...how does it work?" I tell them: "It's the #YOLO Diet. You see, YOLO stands for 'You Only Live Once', which is the principles that this diet is based off of. In the future, I might start working on the #SWAG Diet, as well."
    Now that was funny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr BJ75 View Post
    I play more with goals in mind. As soon as I hit my goal, I'm up and out. Because that is only my table goal and not my daily goal
    Completely reasonable. A nice, simple, powerful tweak to your system: before you hit the first table, be sure to play several blackjack hands on the computer or an app. Play till you lose maybe 10 or so hands in a row, get all that negative variance out of the way. Then STOP, head straight to the casino (as fast as you can, you don't want the good hands that are due to you to "reset") and make extra big wagers till your first win, now that you got all those losing hands out of the way for free. Caesars won't know what hit 'em.
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    Why do you waste your time writing such things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr BJ75 View Post
    Why do you waste your time writing such things?
    In the old forum there was a couple voodoo practitioners that did just that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Math Demon View Post
    In order to attract investors, inventors of new products or concepts, or innovators of existing ones need to present some basis for their idea as well as some details.

    Can you elaborate on your "12-16 hand bust plan"? What exactly do you mean "3.5%-9% to move tables"?


    I'm NOT promising anything. I'm very skeptical of unproven methodology. I don't think you can PM until your 5th day, so you will have to post this.

    If I see any merit on this, 5k-10k is not an issue.
    Math Demon,

    Thank you for the opportunity. I am using a form of progression strategy, in a typical Martingale you'd be looking at a 6-7 hand or bust if trying to win 3.5% BR per winning hand with the bankroll I would have. My system is more difficult, but has a 16 hand or bust to win the same %. My goal at each table is around a 10% of BR per table to get up. Once I hit the mark, my BR + goal goes in one pocket and the extra goes in the other acting as insurance. My plan consists of 27 stops within days, thus 9 a day. The 27 stops consists of 9 levels, thus I increase my table buyin and minimum after every 3rd stop. I play a very discipline game and never change.

    I'm willing to treat your investment as a loan at a very high rate of 20% if for the unfortunate case I go bust. If I'm a success as I believe I will be, I will return to you a 100% return minus expenses.

    Be the one guy on here that give me a chance to prove myself.

    Thank you

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    With all the respect you deserve, it's a shame you don't want to understand what people are trying to tell you. I see that the time I spend on writing you was in vain. 12-session win-streak is nothing, I told you before, we have won more times than that, even months ahead. The math is the math and you can't change that, you're leaving your chips in the hands of fate, the hand of God. Many people for years, has tried to create systems based on betting progressions and all have failed, otherwise we were all millionaires. I personally think that no one is trying to offend you/treat you badly, they are just giving you the tools to not waste your money and your time. I strongly recommend you to describes us how your system works, when to bet, when to stand, when to hit, whe to "stop" etc, etc. or you won't give us the formula? Otherwise, I'm done with this. "There's none so blind as he who will not see".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Math Demon View Post
    In order to attract investors, inventors of new products or concepts, or innovators of existing ones need to present some basis for their idea as well as some details.

    Can you elaborate on your "12-16 hand bust plan"? What exactly do you mean "3.5%-9% to move tables"?


    I'm NOT promising anything. I'm very skeptical of unproven methodology. I don't think you can PM until your 5th day, so you will have to post this.

    If I see any merit on this, 5k-10k is not an issue.
    My numbers from last time using 12 hand system / $1000 BR and only 12 stops and 4 levels:

    1. Paris +$405
    +$405
    2. Planet Hollywood +$205
    +$610
    3. MGM +$265
    +$875
    4. Tropicana +$225
    +$1100
    5. Mandalay Bay +$205
    +$1305
    6. Luxor +$200
    +$1505
    7. Excalibur +$425
    +$1930
    8. New York +$270
    +$2200
    9. Monte Carlo +$330
    +$2530
    10. Aria +$290
    +$2820
    11. Bellagio +$430
    +$3250
    12. Bally's +$365
    +$3615

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    Lets do this!

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    Mr B175: Obviously, you believe in what you do. That is a key factor in any endeavor. But, for obvious reasons, you are running into a brick wall here trying to raise capital. Consequently, you are taking a beating. The reason? Anyone that had the funds to risk have the intelligence to invest their dollars wisely. Plus, perhpas like you, the majority of these people responding already have their own way of doing it. For instance, Rudy uses KO. Why? Because that is what works for him. Doesn't make it the best or worst.

    My thought is, since your willing to pay such a high rate of interest on a system you believe is sure-fire, paying a visit with an equity broker might be a better course. If you have equity in your home or sometimes putting up collaterall we get you the funds needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr BJ75 View Post
    My numbers from last time using 12 hand system / $1000 BR and only 12 stops and 4 levels:

    1. Paris +$405
    +$405
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    I've got a much better system:

    1. El Cortez +$1 billion

    Eh, what's that? That doesn't actually say anything at all about how to play, how to bet, how to lock in a win? Well gee willickers, I guess I just put in how much money I'd like to make, and nothing at all about the actual system. Funny that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Mr B175: Obviously, you believe in what you do. That is a key factor in any endeavor. But, for obvious reasons, you are running into a brick wall here trying to raise capital. Consequently, you are taking a beating. The reason? Anyone that had the funds to risk have the intelligence to invest their dollars wisely. Plus, perhpas like you, the majority of these people responding already have their own way of doing it. For instance, Rudy uses KO. Why? Because that is what works for him. Doesn't make it the best or worst.

    My thought is, since your willing to pay such a high rate of interest on a system you believe is sure-fire, paying a visit with an equity broker might be a better course. If you have equity in your home or sometimes putting up collaterall we get you the funds needed.
    Thanks Moses, but ex wife got the house.

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