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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    Once you get the chips it is your money not the houses. You are risking your money the entire time unless you have free play or direct bet coupons/chips. Why would you look at a bet differently if you were ahead or behind? The guy at the cage isn't going to give you different bills for your buy in and your win.
    Because, I'm on at a table for an average 45 minutes. I'm sure you don't count what you have as yours every 45 minutes in a lengthy stay at one table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr BJ75 View Post
    Actually, no it wasn't over my head at all thank you.
    So you now agree that your system is not proven to be profitable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidniteToker View Post
    So you now agree that your system is not proven to be profitable?
    Lol. What I do understand is that you like to type, yet you don't read anything. Don't hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr BJ75 View Post
    Because, I'm on at a table for an average 45 minutes. I'm sure you don't count what you have as yours every 45 minutes in a lengthy stay at one table.
    I count it as mine as soon as it is paid while still in the betting circle. It is the casino's money if it is in the chip tray. It is my money if it is in my stack. Thinking any other way is a dangerous fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    I count it as mine as soon as it is paid while still in the betting circle. It is the casino's money if it is in the chip tray. It is my money if it is in my stack. Thinking any other way is a dangerous fallacy.
    That's an interesting thought, much along the lines of how my girlfriend thinks. If you truly thought that way, I'm not sure how you handle the swings of a single session. I play more with goals in mind. As soon as I hit my goal, I'm up and out. Because that is only my table goal and not my daily goal, I can't honestly think that won't be a at risk when sitting at the next table unless I've hit an insurance point. Out of the 12 stop example that I gave, I was over my goal on all 12 by quite a bit which all went into the insurance bank. That's money that can't and won't come out.

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    I don't have a goal. I know I have an advantage so getting out costs me money. You handle the swings by knowing the math and having an adequate BR. You leave for heat or a bad deck composition and personal reasons that affect performance not any goal. Goals cost you money in down time. Getting banned costs you a game and probably increases travel and opportunity costs. If your system had an advantage you wouldn't have goals as they cost you time at the table which is money out of your pocket.

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    Knowledge is power.Use your time wisely.It seems like we are wasting time.A sad thing.

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    The casino is a successful model,follow it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr BJ75 View Post
    What I do understand is that you like to type, yet you don't read anything.
    And what I do understand is that you may have read Nyne's post, but you don't really get it. Your streak of 12 winning sessions proves absolutely nothing, end of. Good luck getting investors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr BJ75 View Post
    Hi, I'm new to the forum. I'm a former BJ dealer and active player, yet live in TX where the nearest casino is an hour and the spreads are horrible.

    I tested my system this Summer in 22 hour turnaround trip to Vegas. I won $200+ in 12 straight casinos with a $1000 BR.

    I'm going to Vegas in September and October for 3 days each and need investors to have a BR. Does anyone have any helpful suggestions?

    Thank you,

    Mr. BJ75
    Ok, cmon enough...please. I very rarely post on this kind of stuff but its so ludicrous that its still alive. Listen MR BJ75, all you had was a good day of gambling....no more no less. That's nice you won the day you went to Vegas, do you really think you're the only one that has had a good day at the tables when gambling. There were probably hundreds of people that same day you were in Vegas that without a clue on how to play BJ with an advantage knocked em dead as well. As much as I am really happy that you actually won money while gambling in Vegas on that 1 day, I must say I am not the least bit impressed. You don't know why you won, can't statistically prove you have an edge over the house, but worse than all that, you can't see why you can't win.

    In many fields of discovery and science there is something called peer review. Its a prerequisite for some idea or premise to actually gain validation. In this thread you have proposed, with very little evidence or data I might add, that you have a system of playing blackjack that will enhance your ability to nullify the house edge over the player in turn allowing you to extract money from the casino, there by justifying your asking of outside parties to invest. Well, in this thread you have been reviewed by many advantage players that incorporate systems that are already accepted by the field as well as have been mathematically tested to be valid methods of actually gaining an edge over the casino. The overwhelming majority of this peer review has rightly pointed out the flaws of your approach and has deemed your "system" quite useless. At this point, if you were being truthful in your first post and were looking for helpful suggestions, you have gotten them. Even if they are not in agreement with you, they are for the most part helpful. And if you were also looking for investors here, or some way to find them, that avenue seems to be closed as you have really proven no reason why you offer anything worth buying into. So why continue the thread?

    Hey, at least you can say you had a good day in Vegas. Believe it or not I have had days far better than what you described, as well as days far worse. But I have never judged my success or failure by 1 day in the casino and the results it brings. My very friendly and sincere advice to you is this, quit while you're ahead. Sadly, I'm pretty sure you won't, so good luck to you.

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    Tbonz- that was an excellent post.

    Let's hope the OP doesn't respond with "you don't know what you are talking about." Or similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonz View Post
    Ok, cmon enough...please. I very rarely post on this kind of stuff but its so ludicrous that its still alive. Listen MR BJ75, all you had was a good day of gambling....no more no less. That's nice you won the day you went to Vegas, do you really think you're the only one that has had a good day at the tables when gambling. There were probably hundreds of people that same day you were in Vegas that without a clue on how to play BJ with an advantage knocked em dead as well. As much as I am really happy that you actually won money while gambling in Vegas on that 1 day, I must say I am not the least bit impressed. You don't know why you won, can't statistically prove you have an edge over the house, but worse than all that, you can't see why you can't win.

    In many fields of discovery and science there is something called peer review. Its a prerequisite for some idea or premise to actually gain validation. In this thread you have proposed, with very little evidence or data I might add, that you have a system of playing blackjack that will enhance your ability to nullify the house edge over the player in turn allowing you to extract money from the casino, there by justifying your asking of outside parties to invest. Well, in this thread you have been reviewed by many advantage players that incorporate systems that are already accepted by the field as well as have been mathematically tested to be valid methods of actually gaining an edge over the casino. The overwhelming majority of this peer review has rightly pointed out the flaws of your approach and has deemed your "system" quite useless. At this point, if you were being truthful in your first post and were looking for helpful suggestions, you have gotten them. Even if they are not in agreement with you, they are for the most part helpful. And if you were also looking for investors here, or some way to find them, that avenue seems to be closed as you have really proven no reason why you offer anything worth buying into. So why continue the thread?

    Hey, at least you can say you had a good day in Vegas. Believe it or not I have had days far better than what you described, as well as days far worse. But I have never judged my success or failure by 1 day in the casino and the results it brings. My very friendly and sincere advice to you is this, quit while you're ahead. Sadly, I'm pretty sure you won't, so good luck to you.
    I'm a little surprised how many of you treat newcomers to this forum. I'm not saying my strategy is better than yours. More importantly, I didn't make this conclusion based on one day in Vegas. I've been playing blackjack for 22 years and have been a top dealer in a casino. I've been working on this current strategy for the past 6-8 years. It is just now that I've ever decided to look for investors.

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    I'm a little bit surprised this topic has gone on for so long...

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