Edited.
The reason for the lower index number when playing ES10 is, if you have 14 and the dealer has a 10 up, you make the Early Surrender decision before the dealer checks (or draws) his/her second card. So the second dealer card could be an Ace, which would give the dealer an unbeatable 21. So your chances of winning the hand are even lower than at a Late Surrender game, where the dealer has already checked for blackjack and found no Ace under his Ten (otherwise you would have no chance to surrender at all).
Flash- Can you please elaborate on this?
With LS and Hi Lo:
My Understanding was they are close enough to use them at the same indice # except the indices vs an Ace. Keep in mind I only use -1 - +10 also.
If you really want to be perfect you can adjust a little depending on the exact cards that make your hand.
According to Pro B jack 8-7 should be surrendered earlier than 10-5 but this should get you started.
Here are my LS indices. If someone else has some input please let me know.
14 v 10 3
14 v 9 6
14 v A 6. H17 (4)
15 v 9 2
15 v 10 0
15 v A 1 H17 (-1)
16 v 10, ACE basically always since the indices are more - than you'd want to play at.
16 v 9 surrender in + counts.
Of course 8,8 is another story. As is 7,7. I Also have looked these up several places and they can vary 1 TC # depending on where you look but these are the numbers I decided on and use.
If you want more PM me.
Tthree:
I understand the reasoning. Just wondering if I missed something because in my research on the indices only a few that deal with surrender really change. They are the ones I mentioned above that deal with an ace up. Other than that, they are the same. Right?
Of course. In high counts the dealer is less likely to get a 6 under and less likely to draw the small cards that make S17 or hands out of S17.
Unfortunately I have to play both for longevity and location reasons, but fortunately there are only a handful of differences in strategies.
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