See the top rated post in this thread. Click here

Results 1 to 13 of 23

Thread: KO with one side count, 5m7c, on par with HO2 w ASC for shoe game, no side counts

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1


    1 out of 1 members found this post helpful. Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by dogman_1234 View Post
    Did you not learn anything from last time!?


    Introducing the Dogman Count


    The dogman Count is a level 2 count with 9 independent side counts. This allows for near perfect play with a BD of 0.99, a PE of 0.93, and a IC of 1.00!

    We start with a simple balanced Ten count with point tags [A-T] : <0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 -2>. This allows us to have near perfect insurance when it comes to accounting for it per dealer Ace up-card! To increase efficiency for Insurance, and ASC is recommended. In addition to the ASC, we will use it for accounting for drawing to doubling on all hands given. Dogman also recommends using the 6, 7, 8, and 9 side counts to get the best of all stiff draw hands. The 4 and 5 side count allows extra betting efficiency while allowing you to beat HOII with ASC & 7SC!!!! A 2, 3 side count is needed to account for drawing on all soft totals over 17.

    Sim results show that side counting all ranks allows us to play nearly perfect play and betting! Side counting all ranks is pathetically easy and anyone who is a real card-couter (and not those level one "counters" to give themselves away so easlily at the table!) can master this in less than an hour! This even beats the Tarzan/DHMC system(s) and is close to that of Eric Farmers and MGP's BJCA's! It so easy, my friend Freightman (who is not as bright as I am) learned it and is using it as part of his FBM ASC!

    Gronbog's sims demonstrate that the overal SCORE is 6.02*10^23!!! Take that HOII with ASC & 7SC!

    I would like to point out that I have always been right and that no one here can disprove me as I am very smart!

    Excellent commentary, especially your thoughts regarding the FBM ASC. I still haven’t decided yet whether or not I will see Don on my upcoming New York trip. He has been pestering me on nuances to the FBM ASC, for inclusion in his upcoming BJA4.

    I was also fascinated by your comments regarding 6,7,8 and 9 side counts. The possibilities for improvement to play are endless.

  2. #2


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Excellent commentary, especially your thoughts regarding the FBM ASC. I still haven’t decided yet whether or not I will see Don on my upcoming New York trip. He has been pestering me on nuances to the FBM ASC, for inclusion in his upcoming BJA4.

    I was also fascinated by your comments regarding 6,7,8 and 9 side counts. The possibilities for improvement to play are endless.
    Quite innumerable, my friend!

    With regard to the 6,7,8,9 independent side counts, one is here forewarned on the practical implications of perfect play on stiff hands. While you are gaining near perfect efficiency with respect to the middle card side counts, one is also at risk of errors. Hence, why only "real, serious counter only!" applies to the Dogman count.

    A quick trip through ToBJ 6th Edition will render the reader *more* prepared to attack the game and palce them in the coveted 0.1% of players who are "professional" in their own right.

  3. #3


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by dogman_1234 View Post
    Quite innumerable, my friend!

    With regard to the 6,7,8,9 independent side counts, one is here forewarned on the practical implications of perfect play on stiff hands. While you are gaining near perfect efficiency with respect to the middle card side counts, one is also at risk of errors. Hence, why only "real, serious counter only!" applies to the Dogman count.

    A quick trip through ToBJ 6th Edition will render the reader *more* prepared to attack the game and palce them in the coveted 0.1% of players who are "professional" in their own right.
    Or you can simply coax (sp?) Tarzan to teach you his columnar approach (including the 6 through 9 middle grouping), and avoid having to SC 4 cards independently.
    "Your honor, with all due respect: if you're going to try my case for me, I wish you wouldn't lose it."

    Fictitious Boston Attorney Frank Galvin (Paul Newman - January 26, 1925 - September 26, 2008) in The Verdict, 1982, lambasting Trial Judge Hoyle (Milo Donal O'Shea - June 2, 1926 - April 2, 2013) - http://imdb.com/title/tt0084855/

  4. #4


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Galvin View Post
    Or you can simply coax (sp?) Tarzan to teach you his columnar approach (including the 6 through 9 middle grouping), and avoid having to SC 4 cards independently.
    The above quote was in jest.

    Also, to be pedantic: Counting the 9 in the 6-9 column actually reduced the PE of the system at hand, as the 9 acts as a "big card" most of the time rather than vacillate between "big" and "small".

    There are other factors associated with keeping singular rank side counts as they offer different EOR's for each hand total per up-card. This means different values when adjusting the main running count of your system.

  5. #5


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by dogman_1234 View Post
    The above quote was in jest.

    Also, to be pedantic: Counting the 9 in the 6-9 column actually reduced the PE of the system at hand, as the 9 acts as a "big card" most of the time rather than vacillate between "big" and "small".

    There are other factors associated with keeping singular rank side counts as they offer different EOR's for each hand total per up-card. This means different values when adjusting the main running count of your system.
    Dogman_1234 - As Bill Murray’s character in Stripes would say, “Lighten up Francis!”
    "Your honor, with all due respect: if you're going to try my case for me, I wish you wouldn't lose it."

    Fictitious Boston Attorney Frank Galvin (Paul Newman - January 26, 1925 - September 26, 2008) in The Verdict, 1982, lambasting Trial Judge Hoyle (Milo Donal O'Shea - June 2, 1926 - April 2, 2013) - http://imdb.com/title/tt0084855/

Similar Threads

  1. Side counts with zen?
    By UncleChoo in forum General Blackjack Forum
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 08-14-2019, 08:44 AM
  2. Keeping track of side counts in shoe games
    By All Clear in forum General Blackjack Forum
    Replies: 35
    Last Post: 12-27-2015, 06:45 PM
  3. Interchangeable level 1 counts with side counts on A,2,7, and 9
    By Blitzkrieg in forum General Blackjack Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 08-07-2014, 11:00 AM
  4. Hi opt 2 with ACE side count for double deck / hi-lo for a shoe game
    By chang04133 in forum General Blackjack Forum
    Replies: 49
    Last Post: 02-27-2013, 01:27 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

About Blackjack: The Forum

BJTF is an advantage player site based on the principles of comity. That is, civil and considerate behavior for the mutual benefit of all involved. The goal of advantage play is the legal extraction of funds from gaming establishments by gaining a mathematic advantage and developing the skills required to use that advantage. To maximize our success, it is important to understand that we are all on the same side. Personal conflicts simply get in the way of our goals.