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    Balanced Ace Side Count can help with deck estimation accuracy, as you don't need any greater accuracy than with an ace reckoned count, but you never really know how many aces have been played. You can make an inference on aces played from the Balanced Ace Side Count. Of course in SD or DD play paying attention to aces along with the Balanced Ace Side Count without counting them is easy. I play some insane pen shoe games but it can get difficult for me judging so many decks in the discard tray to 1/4 deck accuracy. Especially with so many different size discard trays and thicknesses of cards. Two places 8 decks of cards looks like 6 decks of cards. Of course they both cut really, really thin to cause errors for AP's and get in more rounds/hour which both benefit the casinos' bottom line a lot. Once you get deeper than 1 deck remaining my TC estimates are not that reliable. I am not betting or playing properly. I think the casinos know this and that is why they cut 1/2 deck or less off. For playing adjustments for aces you use some multiplier of the Balanced Ace Side Count to add to the playing count to get the optimal correlation to EoR's (the combined count that would have the greatest gain as the TC increases).

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    Wong Halves not have Aces side count and has an excellent BC.

    Jack Jackson, what you think? How will this system behave in the tasks you proposed ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Mama View Post
    Am I reading something into this that's not really there? 15-1 spread (assumes 1 unit below TC+2) in DD game and getting away with it?
    If the rules suck, 15-1 should not be a problem. In that case, you would have a casino problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    Wong Halves not have Aces side count and has an excellent BC.

    Jack Jackson, what you think? How will this system behave in the tasks you proposed ?
    I think Halves, like any Ace-Reckoned count has so much better accuracy "for betting" than Non-Reckoned counts do..But Halves itself, is not only Very Strong for betting it also (IMO) has the perfect "Tag Vallues" when it comes to balance..With Ho2 or Ao2 you have to be very careful when handling the Ace side-count, when your trying to calculate for the Adjustments of seen/unseen Aces..Not as easy as it sounds when your actually trying to decide what to bet next, when you got a RC of +7 with 7 seen Aces, and about 34 cards left to be played..What do you think your overall EV %(avg.) wise is on the next bet?

    The most important thing i recently learned was how valuable Blackjacks were to your "overall" EV..I knew it was important, but i didnt realize it was THAT important..I also noticed that when the (2) deck game is or rather gets depleted of ALL 8 Aces it severely affects the probabilty of your overall EV and will have you WAY over betting if your not careful..So Ace-Reckoned counts, esp. Halves in particular, IMO really helps compensate for this..Soo, my conclusion would be,is that if you use a count like Halves(or somewhat similiar) is to really Focus and practice on the Skill and Art of your betting more than anything else..Hence, thats what its designed for...


    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Jack. 15 to 1 spread in DD? C'mon maaan.
    I Probably should of mentioned, that the 1-15 spread was just a random spread i was using "in practice mode" on the Probability Game i practice on..I realize this isnt a realistic spread..The truth is, ive really been working on the art of "fine tuning" my betting..Honestly, between the rules in play, Ace side-count, Floating advantage, bet spread, and a custom betting strategy i use, ive really been able to to take the art of betting to a whole new level..And Man, what a difference it makes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Jackson View Post
    I think Halves, like any Ace-Reckoned count has so much better accuracy "for betting" than Non-Reckoned counts do.
    I do not agree- not every system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Jackson View Post
    But Halves itself, is not only Very Strong for betting it also (IMO) has the perfect "Tag Vallues" when it comes to balance.
    On this Halves have a very small standard deviation.
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