Thanks for your input. It seems short sessions are the best way along with some interaction with casino personnel. The short session lengths make it a lot harder to increase the number of rounds, but like you said, it seems to be a necessary evil in today's environment.
I presume his book is still worth reading and adapting the techniques for more modern day casinos though.
Last edited by NB10; 08-13-2017 at 02:01 AM.
I do not take serious whatever the trolling or alias or whatever other BS claims a few of you are coming up with on here for no particular reasons. In fact, it is you who are acting like trolls, this thread is supposed to be about cover plays. I have no other ids, or accounts on social media or any other BJ site. A few of you who have emailed me at the address I provided can vouch for that. There is only one person in AP community who knows my real name and only that person knows who he is and i trust them to secrecy.
My purpose is only to learn and to share information in fellowship. I have no time for frivolous drama or arguments unless it's about maximizing EV or study of this game. I treat bj as a professional adding supplemental income to support my family. Any advice given is from my direct experience or simulations, whether it may be wrong or right in your viewpoint, it is my honest thoughts.
The coin toss thing is not trolling, it is a standard gimmick I use often. I see so many try hard counters at tables that make it so obvious with their serious demeanor. I am courteous and polite and friendly to dealers and other players. My dislike about hilo is from my own experience of it failing to provide results that meet my goals. My switch from hilo to my improved version of ubz2 with 1/4 resolution and then switch again to hiopt2 w/A saw very noticeable and immediate improvements in my daily and hourly P/L charts.
long live blackjack!
Hypercube, there is so much wrong with the above quote that if this is how you think I will kindly ignore you. You can not play that way "wait and place an extra bet in a better double down or split situation v a weaker dealer card" by picking and choosing your own basic strategy, and rightfully say "so not splitting the 8s become huge +ev that way" that is simply not true. Using risk averse indexes is a good thing, and I recommend players use them, but you are taking this to a whole new level.
" Originally Posted by hypercubeOriginally Posted by NB10
Wanted to get the thoughts of more experienced players, what are the most effective cover plays for lessening heat whilst minimising the amount of EV sacrificed?"
Hypercube responded with:
"if I have max bet out and i want to split 10s v 4,5,6 i take out my double sided tail coin out and say heads i stand tails I split!! if its a low count i use my double sided head coin!"
Go ahead and use your two sided coin flip, and go get that extra EV for that play. What about beyond that one play? Oh yes, in your world no one saw a thing, great idea, that is completely ridiculous.
Last edited by BoSox; 08-13-2017 at 07:41 AM.
If new players have read Chapter 8 in Don's S great book, on Risk of Ruin like they should have, they would have a much better understanding of what is needed financially to play the game properly. By learning Hi Op 2, can get you an extra 15 to 20 % EV over the Hi lo count, but it really boils down to the individual and what he/she is capable of doing. Just because there is more gain to be made using a more complex system, does not make it a suitable system for everyone. One way to make up some of that gain is put in a little more playing time, preferably not in the same place, or pit. You can cut down on a lot of the variance by wonging, do not underestimate its value. Do not misconstrue what I am trying to say, this will not solve all the players problems by any means, mainly the up front house edge, and the all important cut card placement. For the record I am very selective on house rules and would not play certain games in many sections of the country. Because the differences in percentages of up front house edges are much, much greater than that 15 to 20% difference gain from using Hi OP2. Such as having S17 and Late surrender, with the gain from a counters perspective not a basic strategist.
Last edited by BoSox; 08-13-2017 at 07:49 AM.
you say border line anything is weak, i say splitting 88v9,10 is borderline and weak and comes with high short term variance and that their are many more borderline plays to choose from where you actually have the odds to win the hand and so your variance will be lower, unlike the splitting 88 where you have odds to lose the hand. So take that money and deploy it on a soft 20 double versus a 4,5,6 in a high count instead.
I get the sense people are not understanding, what i am suggesting is stop splitting 88 against a dealer 9,10 in a high count and it will lower session variance and the effect on longterm ev is minuscule which can be more than made up by deploying that capitol in a better way. What I suggest instead is finding a better advantage situation to take that max bet that would have gone out on the split 88 and deploy in a +ev situation instead, merely learning one more index you are not using today for example gains back more ev, pick one of these.
A2v4 A4v3 A5v3 A8v4 44v4 99v7
A3v3 A8v3 A9v5 A9v6 1010v5 1010v6
A8v2 A9v4 A10v4 A10v5 A10v6 1010v4
This is a game played with real players and you guys are smart I am sure you can find a way to deploy an extra max bet in advantage situation over the course of a session that is better than splitting 88v10 to theoretically lose less in the long run in a monster count when you know the dealer has a 10!
Last edited by hypercube; 08-13-2017 at 07:46 AM.
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