See the top rated post in this thread. Click here

Page 3 of 10 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 27 to 39 of 128

Thread: Cover play

  1. #27
    Senior Member Bubbles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    South West
    Posts
    957


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    I used to be more direct but the casinos were changing things to adjust for what I was discussing. That was not a good thing to be causing. I should probably just not answer people which was the second choice I talked about. The idea is you have to think to figure things out. It gets you thinking which is a good thing whether you figure it out or not. While thinking you might even figure something out that you can teach me someday.
    You know much more about BJ and stuff than I do. I have nothing to teach you yet. Maybe someday I'll figure out something new. That would be cool. I think the unique approach I developed is just what you do, but with BJ instead of SP21. It's not as good as your game, but it gets the job done.

  2. #28
    Senior Member Jabberwocky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Agharta
    Posts
    1,868


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Guilt does not presume conviction.

  3. #29
    Senior Member Jabberwocky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Agharta
    Posts
    1,868


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    [QUOTE=Fringe;227690]My opinion, the best cover is your act. I'm not super pro but I have made this a job and I play many hours a day, haven't had a day off in the past 3 months.


    3 months?? Try TEN freaking years!!

  4. #30


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    You also wrote the below quote this week:

    " I also think there is something to being able to reduce short term session variance with negligible impact on long term ev that makes things like splitting 88, 99 v 10 and A questionable at their simed index."

    Do you also side count two's ? If not splitting 99 vs a 10 up is also going to cause a little bit of extra variance. Twenty four post on the board and suddenly we have another expert.
    why would i side count 2s? and yes splitting 88s v 9,10,A is a stupid play.
    Last edited by hypercube; 08-12-2017 at 02:26 AM.

  5. #31


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by Fringe View Post
    My opinion, the best cover is your act. I'm not super pro but I have made this a job and I play many hours a day, haven't had a day off in the past 3 months.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Many hours in the same casino or several casinos each day?

  6. #32


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by hypercube View Post
    why would i side count 2s? and yes splitting 88s v 9,10,A is a stupid play.
    Wow, you won't split 8's and it's a stupid play? Wonder why all these pros do it and why the great authors on this site say, both in their books and on the forum that it's a smart play. In my experience, when Surrender is not offered, there have been far too many times when I have either one one or both by splitting and very few by standing or hitting two 8's.

  7. #33


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by hypercube View Post
    why would i side count 2s?

    Sorry, I was just being sarcastic.


    Quote Originally Posted by hypercube View Post
    and yes splitting 88s v 9,10,A is a stupid play.

    I did not say that, as I often split 88 vs 9, 10, ace up. They are not stupid plays, they are referred to as defensive splits, which lose you less money than making the alternative move.
    I will surrender 88 vs a ten up with a TC of +2 in a S17 shoe game. I have not yet seen the situation to surrender 88 vs a 9 up, which requires a TC of +7 to do so.

  8. #34


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by NB10 View Post
    Many hours in the same casino or several casinos each day?
    Both. However as my game tightens I prefer to play shorter sessions (1 hour or less), I will return to the same joint on different shifts though. ( only two shifts out here, day and graveyard)


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  9. #35


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    [QUOTE=Jabberwocky;227713]
    Quote Originally Posted by Fringe View Post
    My opinion, the best cover is your act. I'm not super pro but I have made this a job and I play many hours a day, haven't had a day off in the past 3 months.


    3 months?? Try TEN freaking years!!
    You play blackjack for a living?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  10. #36


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Wow, you won't split 8's and it's a stupid play? Wonder why all these pros do it and why the great authors on this site say, both in their books and on the forum that it's a smart play. In my experience, when Surrender is not offered, there have been far too many times when I have either one one or both by splitting and very few by standing or hitting two 8's.
    nope i dont split 8s v 9,10,A, because my sim results optimizing score and RA betting for the system i play tell me it reduces $$/hr if it do it in high counts. I get that its technically borderline better in low counts, not doing it gives up nothing and reduces session variance and you can simply take that $$ where you were going to split the 88s v 9,10,a and wait and place an extra bet in a better double down or split situation v a weaker dealer card, so not splitting the 8s become huge +ev that way
    Last edited by hypercube; 08-12-2017 at 08:37 AM.

  11. #37


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by hypercube View Post
    nope i dont split 8s v 9,10,A, because my sim results optimizing score and RA betting for the system i play tell me it reduces $$/hr if it do it in high counts. I get that its technically borderline better in low counts, not doing it gives up nothing and reduces session variance and you can simply take that $$ where you were going to split the 88s v 9,10,a and wait and place an extra bet in a better double down or split situation v a weaker dealer card, so not splitting the 8s become huge +ev that way
    What sim do you use? I thought BS said to split 88 against these dealer cards?

  12. #38


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by Fringe View Post
    Both. However as my game tightens I prefer to play shorter sessions (1 hour or less), I will return to the same joint on different shifts though. ( only two shifts out here, day and graveyard)


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Ah ok, understood. Do you find you get much heat when you return to a place if you've been changing bet sizes purely with the count? Any tips on characteristics of your act that you find helps particularly well?

  13. #39


    Did you find this post helpful? Yes | No
    Quote Originally Posted by NB10 View Post
    Ah ok, understood. Do you find you get much heat when you return to a place if you've been changing bet sizes purely with the count? Any tips on characteristics of your act that you find helps particularly well?
    Generally not much heat, because even though my betting doesn't have much cover ( I do chip up on wins/ steam) I engage everyone at the tables so it becomes something of a group sport, with dealers and pit staff rooting for us instead of eying us careful.
    Ian Anderson has lots of good information on how to create an act. Eye contact, making the pit my "friends", has gone a long long way.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Page 3 of 10 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. cover play
    By luckyned in forum General Blackjack Forum
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 07-28-2015, 04:28 AM
  2. Amount of EV to sacrifice as cover play
    By mickeymouse in forum General Blackjack Forum
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 01-15-2015, 07:23 PM
  3. cover?
    By njrich in forum General Blackjack Forum
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 04-03-2013, 09:06 AM
  4. Myooligan: eye in the sky cover
    By Myooligan in forum Blackjack Beginners
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 06-22-2005, 01:36 PM
  5. Mr. Ed: Cover
    By Mr. Ed in forum Blackjack Main
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 03-14-2003, 06:59 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

About Blackjack: The Forum

BJTF is an advantage player site based on the principles of comity. That is, civil and considerate behavior for the mutual benefit of all involved. The goal of advantage play is the legal extraction of funds from gaming establishments by gaining a mathematic advantage and developing the skills required to use that advantage. To maximize our success, it is important to understand that we are all on the same side. Personal conflicts simply get in the way of our goals.