K-O Blackjack vs HiLo

[moses]

Ex. For the most part, I'd have to take a backseat to you in terms of identifying games. In single deck, I'm more concerned with dealers. In my case, it was a matter of running SIMS of a variety of card point values to compare how their SCORE applied to my game. As it turned out, the same count I was using had the best SCORE. So it gave me peace of mind.

Yesterday was nearly a $3k loser. A hockey loser in OT and two blackjack sessions. But I'd take the hockey bet 10 more times without question. I played my game but it wasn't in the cards. A silver lining was finding a new dealer that gives deep pen. My game is a little complex to explain. Sort of like Peyton Manning calling plays or an audible at the line . The SCORE of card point values gives me the two options or audibles so to speak.

Winning is easy. But for me, a strong peace of mind is necessary for those losing "daze." Lol

[moses]

Ex. Unlike you. KJ simply wasn't believable. T3 can get under people's skin and thus KJs downfall. Sharing too much personal stuff lessened his credibility and made him sound like a fuirrely squcker.

[Exoter175]

Ex. For the most part, I'd have to take a backseat to you in terms of identifying games. In single deck, I'm more concerned with dealers. In my case, it was a matter of running SIMS of a variety of card point values to compare how their SCORE applied to my game. As it turned out, the same count I was using had the best SCORE. So it gave me peace of mind.

Yesterday was nearly a $3k loser. A hockey loser in OT and two blackjack sessions. But I'd take the hockey bet 10 more times without question. I played my game but it wasn't in the cards. A silver lining was finding a new dealer that gives deep pen. My game is a little complex to explain. Sort of like Peyton Manning calling plays or an audible at the line . The SCORE of card point values gives me the two options or audibles so to speak.

Winning is easy. But for me, a strong peace of mind is necessary for those losing "daze." Lol

Honest to god, my best days come from when I lose. They aren't often, but they stir up the "competitive spirit" inside of me, and force me to become better at what I do through practice, experience, information digestion, or what have you. Be it at the tables, or through hundreds of thousands of hands of VP, I learn more from my losses than I do from my wins. As you know, I place a lot of value on knowledge and learning, so those days I actually look forward to. One of my worst days ever, I hung my head as I lost about $4k in the matter of 10 minutes HU against my dreamgirl dealer. Exited the table after the count came down, cards just weren't in my favor that day. In the process, I ran into a dealer who was dealing past the cut, and using 5.5/6 pen consistently. That $4k was made back 3 days later over two sessions with that dealer, and I further exploited him in the neighborhood of $40k over the next 8 months. It was from those winnings, that I pushed forward to equip the "home team" so that we could travel. I look back on that day as one of the most defining moments of my career. I never gave up and dug myself out of that hole without ever letting it knock me down.

[Exoter175]

Ex. Unlike you. KJ simply wasn't believable. T3 can get under people's skin and thus KJs downfall. Sharing too much personal stuff lessened his credibility and made him sound like a fuirrely squcker.

I never had an issue believing him, I knew what he was up to, and more importantly what his partner was up to in order to sustain the two of them. I guess we all have different impressions of others. I generally think very highly of those who expose themselves and show their vulnerabilities to others in an effort to teach someone the true reality of our actions. KJ did this to me early on, and while we disagreed over a great many things, the way in which he opened himself up to the forum, so that we could learn through is trials was indeed genuine.

Having said that, I only know bits and pieces of the whole thing since I was very much engulfed with travel and opportunities, so I was unable to read everything across the multitude of forums before it all got edited, deleted, or taken down.

[BigJer]

Hey moses, do you mean:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnpkDWbeJs

I'm from the east coast originally, that's just the way some people talk. It's still funny. I haven't seen that clip in years.

[BoSox]

My issue with Don as of late, has been his arrogance, and his ignorance. He thinks, because he wrote the bible on the mathematics of blackjack, and because he was successful professionally in the stock market, that he's gods gift to this game. Having said that, his advice is caustic, his opinions are rubbish, and its very clear to me, as a full time AP who put in more hours in 2016 than he has in the last two decades, that his ego has gotten in the way of an awesome position to teach others. After all, there's no reason to write a book detailing the mathematics of the game if the intent wasn't to educate. Or in some cases, simply for vanity. In Don's case, he's great at explaining the mathematics, especially here on the forums. Though its annoying when half of his replies are "read page 42, second paragraph of my book", instead of simply taking the time to write an appropriate response to educate. On top of this, he gets irritated with us "lowly" forum-dwellers for extrapolating that information and putting into a much larger perspective in a "big picture" type scenario. Instead of simply agreeing with him, or not responding at all.

Don's advice, is my issue, not his mathematics, Bodarc. He doesn't preach caution, longevity, or common sense, and that's dangerous in today's technological era, and that's where his disconnection from the current game is so obvious. This isn't the 60's, 70's, 80's, or 90's, guys. This is 2017. The game rules are tragic, people get banned for increasing their bet by a single unit, or even looking at the pit boss wrong. The house edge is incredible by comparison to when Don was actually a player

There's no love lost between Don and I as of late, but unlike him, I at least respect what he's done. Having said that, he's a condescending, arrogant, and disrespectful man, and I don't appreciate how he treats others. Simple as that.

I did not realize that Don S, does not preach caution, longevity, or common sense, I always felt in his very first chapter STARTING ON PAGE1 of his book that the restrictions that Don put on his own game, and what he taught his students showed incredible discipline. To quote on page 2 :

"I have tried to impart to all of my students that the cardinal rule in this game is not to win as much money as possible. Rather, it is to win as much as you can, consistent with being welcome back in the casino the next time."

On page 4:
"In nine years of play, I can count the number of times I have increased my bet after a loss on the fingers of one hand and still have several fingers left over."

Apologies to Norm for attacking his dear friend on his forum, its just becoming way too much for me to read over and over where Don and his advice are leading the new generation to a slaughter, and hammering others for disagreeing with what he's said. That kind of ignorance for others and their well being really irritates me, Bodarc.

Somebody does in fact have their head up their ass.

[Exoter175]

I did not realize that Don S , does not preach caution, longevity, or common sense, I always felt in his very first chapter STARTING ON PAGE1 of the book that the restrictions that Don put on his own game, and what he taught, showed incredible discipline. To quote on page 2 :

"I have tried to impart to all of my students that the cardinal rule in this game is not to win as much money as possible. Rather, it is to win as much as you can, consistent with being welcome back in the casino the next time"

On page 4:
"In nine years of play, I can count the number of times I have increased my bet after a loss on the fingers of one hand and still have several fingers left over."



Somebody does in fact have their head up their ass.

My problem with Don is here on the forums BoSox. I'm glad you've identified yourself as the one with their head up their ass while quoting dons book to me when I've clearly formatted my argument's criticism against his advice HERE on the forum, with no regard for his book.

Its an easy defense, though. Don used it before you.

Read the last 400 posts of mine, and the last 400 posts of his.

50% of his will make some mention of his book, no doubt, but its the advice given in those 400 posts that are the issue. Throw the book out of the fucking window for all I care, I have no issue with the book. Hell, I preach Don's good book on other forums, including this one for the sheer magnitude of the information compiled. I even preach Norm's software on and off of this forum in the same light because these two have the best of the best in their fields going for them. Best software, best book.

That doesn't, however, add weight to their comments on the forum when speaking with amateurs and beginners looking for advice, and Don goes way over their head, and suggests things they can't possible master as beginners.

There isn't, on the whole of this forum, a bigger proponent to Caution and Longevity than I, Bosox, and the fact that you suggest he's a proponent at all because of the words in his book, ignoring what him and I have both shared on this forum, leaves you out in the open with your ass hanging out.

KJ was a bigger proponent of caution and longevity than Don, and probably the most practical advice on this forum, and even I disagreed with KJ on certain aspects in regards to longevity.

I find it absurd that some of you idolize Don so much, that you ignore what he's said on the forum, and try to use what he wrote in his book as if it were evidence to support him.

That, Bosox, is the exact embodiment of having your head up his ass.

[Sharky]

fyi ex, Don's books are the "de facto handbooks" for any real pro, while you, my friend, are an ass clown

obama out..(thk god!)..lol

Sharky

[DSchles]

My problem with Don is here on the forums BoSox. I'm glad you've identified yourself as the one with their head up their ass while quoting dons book to me when I've clearly formatted my argument's criticism against his advice HERE on the forum, with no regard for his book.

Its an easy defense, though. Don used it before you.

Read the last 400 posts of mine, and the last 400 posts of his.

50% of his will make some mention of his book, no doubt, but its the advice given in those 400 posts that are the issue. Throw the book out of the fucking window for all I care, I have no issue with the book. Hell, I preach Don's good book on other forums, including this one for the sheer magnitude of the information compiled. I even preach Norm's software on and off of this forum in the same light because these two have the best of the best in their fields going for them. Best software, best book.

That doesn't, however, add weight to their comments on the forum when speaking with amateurs and beginners looking for advice, and Don goes way over their head, and suggests things they can't possible master as beginners.

There isn't, on the whole of this forum, a bigger proponent to Caution and Longevity than I, Bosox, and the fact that you suggest he's a proponent at all because of the words in his book, ignoring what him and I have both shared on this forum, leaves you out in the open with your ass hanging out.

KJ was a bigger proponent of caution and longevity than Don, and probably the most practical advice on this forum, and even I disagreed with KJ on certain aspects in regards to longevity.

I find it absurd that some of you idolize Don so much, that you ignore what he's said on the forum, and try to use what he wrote in his book as if it were evidence to support him.

That, Bosox, is the exact embodiment of having your head up his ass.

Give an example of the kind of reckless advice I give to beginners on this forum. Curious to see what you're talking about.

Don

[mcallister3200]

Give an example of the kind of reckless advice I give to beginners on this forum. Curious to see what you're talking about.

Don

maybe I need to re read it, but I haven't seen a lot of things in your book that I'd classify as advice, it's mostly just data and answering questions. If people come to incorrect conclusions from facts, well that's on that individual to re learn how they learn then.

[moses]

Give an example of the kind of reckless advice I give to beginners on this forum. Curious to see what you're talking about.

Don

Don S, I had to think awhile to come up with something and reckless wouldn't be a fair word. From a beginner's standpoint, the universal understanding of the ill 18 could be misleading. Sweet sixteen is a far more realistic suggestion. In today's game, and based on what I've read on the forum, the 12vs5,6 might be replaced with 13vs4, 14vs2,3,10. Especially when the 7 is given a card point value. But that's about it. The rest is pdg.

[stopgambling]

Didn't the original thread titled KO vs HI Lo? what happens when you ventured passed the 5 deck and into the final half deck? how much is one giving up by not true counting with Hi lo. I like the idea of unbalanced count . If i am not true counting i would like a level 3 U.B. count though.

[Phoebe]

how much is one giving up by not true counting with Hi lo.

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