Indices and their importance to your winning/variance

**Freightman** · 10-01-2016, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Tthree

Everyone that made buy growing a shoestring BR through play will admit they were very lucky in retrospect. There are lots of software tools that are free and are not simulators. Although some are canned sim results. There is no excuse for not playing with the free software to get a feel for ow things in BJ interact.

A couple of comments.
Yes, I started with good local conditions at red chip level. The foundation of my bankroll is from that time frame. I only put in another 250 or so. The roll, if necessary, was immediately rep,enishable. As far as free software - at the time, wasn't really aware of its existence.

**ZenMaster_Flash** · 10-01-2016, 09:14 AM

Retired (in my 40's) as a medical professional, with a 50K
cash bankroll at the beginning of my career as a Pro Player.

I grew that to > $300,000 in a half year playing at a BIG (eastern)
casino that offered excellent table conditions and absurdly light heat
in the very early '90's. No longer of course.

I spent all of the winnings on the (cash) purchase of a fine suburban
home and substantially broadened my territory to many states.

That $50,000 was grown to 4 times that (but it took years to do so.)

Now, I travel and play BJ just a few days a month, and consider myself
to be semi-retired. I spend an enormous amount of time mentoring others.

Currently my acolytes number about 16 with about 6 of them
corresponding by email or video-chat with me at least weekly.

**Xothan** · 10-01-2016, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Tthree

There are canned sims in the tool bar to use (Click "BJ Resources" and then click "CVCX Online" in the tool bar above). The only way they will know how to bet is from the software. Playing with the various tools in the site's tool bar makes learning quick.

Oh wow, I didn't know this existed! That's great!

Any idea why there is no results for REKO?

**Bubbles** · 10-01-2016, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Tthree

There are canned sims in the tool bar to use (Click "BJ Resources" and then click "CVCX Online" in the tool bar above).

I totally forgot about these. Thanks so much T3!! I just messed with the CVCX one to figure out some better bet ramps. Goodness my RoR is high. I knew it was, but I didn't want to see those numbers, lol. It was about 63% at my main store and amazingly I ended up doubling my BR there. I just lost half my BR when I traveled for work a few weeks ago and decided to hit up the casinos in the area. I think I'll grow it at my main store again and feed it ATM money until it's like 10k.

**Phoebe** · 10-02-2016, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by Xothan

Any idea why there is no results for REKO?

REKO is only for recreational players.

**Norm** · 10-02-2016, 04:49 AM

Actually, REKO has about the same performance as HiLo. But, it was developed after I developed that tool.

**Phoebe** · 10-02-2016, 05:31 AM

HiLo also is only for recreational players

More seriously, your are right.
For those interested run your own simulations (red). As I already said sims included in CVCX (blue) does not render justice to REKO.
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**Norm** · 10-02-2016, 08:02 AM

No, HiLo is definitely NOT only for recreational players.

**Freightman** · 10-02-2016, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Norm

No, HiLo is definitely NOT only for recreational players.

I know several high end players doing very well with hi LO. On the other side of the equation, I also know counters using high end systems and can't seem to get out of the starting gate. At the end of the day, its judgement that saves the day.

System count Is a personal choice. The successful high end guy can enhance with a more powerful choice. There may well be very valid reasons for not doing so.

**Xothan** · 10-02-2016, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Norm

Actually, REKO has about the same performance as HiLo. But, it was developed after I developed that tool.

I see, that's too bad!

REKO has certainly worked well for me. Thanks for developing it.

**seriousplayer** · 10-03-2016, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Philippe B

REKO is only for recreational players.

REKO, KO and Hi-lo are very close in performance. However, adding the true count modifications to KO and REKO for betting only results in KO and REKO outperforming Hi-lo.

Norm's REKO-Full could be improve by modifying and adding some of the indices for higher SCORE. Like doubling 10 vs 10 Norm's REKO-Full had it to double on running count of 5 but the SCORE could be higher if you use a higher index.

**Xothan** · 10-03-2016, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by seriousplayer

REKO, KO and Hi-lo are very close in performance. However, adding the true count modifications to KO and REKO for betting only results in KO and REKO outperforming Hi-lo.

How does one add a True Count to REKO? I don't seem to remember reading about this concept in Modern Blackjack... But my memory isn't exactly a gold standard. :-P