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    Oh ! Never mind !

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    Of course it is.
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    There is no weight. It uses the formula for SCORE -- only without optimal bets. If you click on the Call CVCX button, it will calculate optimal bets and actual SCORE.
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    CVData calculates c-SCORE using the bets as defined in the sim. If you call CVCX, it will calculate the optimal bets, and recalculate SCORE.
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    Not relevant.
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    CVData sims exactly what you enter for bets. CVCX can do this.l But, generally calculates the optimal bets, because that increases SCORE.
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    Moses, I'm going to ask this as respectfully as possible, since you've never answered me. Do you have BJA3? Have you read any of it? If not, do you think you might learn from it, since so many questions you ask are clearly answered in the text?

    Your questions show a very primitive understanding of many of the basic concepts germane to the topic of this thread. This is not a criticism; rather, it simply demonstrates that you really have no idea what any of this means. And, if you were to read about it, it could become clear to you.

    In its purest sense, you CANNOT increase SCORE by betting more. You can increase your hourly win rate by doing that, but, for any given game and rules conditions, SCORE is SCORE, and nothing you do personally can change it. A single analogy should suffice. Every new car has a sticker on the window with a miles-per-gallon rating from the EPA. Now, when ten different people drive that car, they might very well come out with ten different mpg readings for their personal driving. But NONE of that can change in any manner the original mpg value from the EPA that is on the window sticker.

    Do you understand?

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    40 years back, I was in a car and the driver said he was almost out of gas; so he sped up to get to the gas station more quickly. I pointed out that you get fewer MPG when you floor the accelerator. Went over his head. Point is that there is an optimal solution to problems. And, bigger is not always better.
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    bigger is not always better.[/QUOTE]

    I wish i could've convinced my last girlfriend.

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    I won't comment on what she said about technique.
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    And, c-SCORE, which CVData reports, is the correct comparison, assuming that you have included your cover plays and betting.
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    You can't compare two different counting systems with the same bets. Makes no sense at all. Frankly, you can't compare two largely different penetrations or rules with the same bets. That's what SCORE is for. It's like the absurd comparison made by the guys that pushed Speed Count. They compared Speed Count with HiLo. But, they used the optimal betting for Speed Count, and used the same betting for HiLo, which was simply horrible. Well, they also used running count and no indices for HiLo. The comparison was obscene.
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    If you don't think you can learn what these concepts mean by reading about them, why do you bother to ask? Why don't you just leave well enough alone? If you want the answers, I'm telling you where to find them. If you're happy with what you're doing, don't ask about the math.

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