Very difficult questions as the U.S. alone has 52 sets of laws (not counting tribal areas and territories). And, cops don’t have law degrees anyhow. It also depends on your purpose. If your purpose is to create the conditions for a suit, I have no interest. Funny thing, another site posted today that I am litigious. As I have said before, I have never sued anyone in my life and hope to be able to say that on my deathbed. My point in any negative situation is always to extract myself reasonably quickly with the best possible result.
Toward that end, I am always respectful in voice and action, if not in spirit. The good news is that these days you will probably be recorded. So, this is your chance to play to the tape, if that later matters. IMHO, suppress the “I have my rights” testosterone crap. Security guards don’t give a shit. Let them understand that you understand they’re just doing their jobs. Chat with them about the casino on the way to the backroom. If they remain aggressive, then insist on police presence. Then you will have a new pair of folks to chat with. Be careful of the word “constitution”. It may work in your favor if you have already established that you are cooperating and it is judiciously used. If they think you are not cooperating, the word will just piss them off more. Also, be slow to ask for a lawyer for the same reasons.
As for giving up your id, IANAL and certainly don’t know the laws in all jurisdictions. Personally, I would politely resist as long as possible. The words I have used in the past are: “You don’t need that”. This isn’t exactly an affront or refusal.
Attempt to negotiate or compromise your way out. Get what both parties want.
All of this is just the way I handle things. Sort of a Gandhi method. But then, it took Gandhi took three decades to win independence.
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