I like using CVdata Index Generation to see how different rules affect the indices.
Lately I was wondering if I can see the EV gained from using each individual index. It would be nice to know how much I'm giving up if I decide to simply not bother with some of them. I already decided I'm not bothering with below -1 (because I'd choose to leave the table, or I'd be betting min), and not above +8 (less frequent), but maybe EV would be a better way to make the decision.
thanks!
-Asmodeus
Oh shoot yeah I wasn't thinking of that. Would that issue only apply to split and hit decisions? I can see why it would affect splits since after you split or hit, you then have other decisions to make. For double downs, stand, surrender I think those wouldn't depend on your decisions about any other card combo, since there is nothing else to do in the round once you double, stand, or surrender.
what does the option for "full report" do? For some reason I was thinking I tried using that awhile ago and remember seeing some list of values for results of either making a decision or not at different true counts. I don't think I used it correctly because I couldn't find the report again after closing it.
The thing about doubling is you don't get a chance to get a fourth (or fifth) card when it would be helpful. Your odds are calculated for doubling and for not doubling, which may included hitting more than once. To calculate this, you first need to know any additional hit/stand indices that you might run into after hitting. If these do not exist, the answer will be different and the index could change. This is why indices must be generated in a particular order. Splitting is worse in that you have to know what double and hit/stand indices you may end up using after splitting.
The Full Report will be saved in the Archives under the CVIndex folder.
"I don't think outside the box; I think of what I can do with the box." - Henri Matisse
Yes I understand your explanation about doubling. Guess that's part of the reason just brute forcing the results with actual billions of rounds is easier than calculations for these things. It hurts my brain thinking of how complicated that would be lol. I Appreciate your continued support.
This is exactly what is discussed in the recently published book by Don and me:Originally Posted by Asmodeus
https://www.amazon.ca/Hi-Lo-Card-Cou.../dp/1944877622
except that the indices are ranked by contribution to SCORE.
That's cool! If I may ask, why SCORE and not EV? I have an idea about why, but if you worked on a book with 300+ charts using it I'm sure you've put a lot of thought in these decisions and I'm interested in your explanation.
Does your book base the values on regular indices or Risk Averse indices? Would using Risk Averse Indices increase SCORE further?
thanks!
-Asmodeus
SCORE is a metric that accounts not only for EV but for risk (variance), as well. As such, it is a risk-adjusted value that is ideally suited for rating the games.
We used EV-maximizing indices. Yes, using risk-averse indices would increase SCOREs slightly.
Don
EV maximizing gains you only a tad over the course of a career. Some RA plays are also a form of cover - example 8v6 @+1 v RA 8v6 @+3, the former being to easy to pick off due to the large number of 8v6 hands. For the same reason, do not practice RA for 11v10 and 10v9. You can act your way through this and other situations.We used EV-maximizing indices. Yes, using risk-averse indices would increase SCOREs slightly.
Don
It’s a tangled web we weave……..
I believe that if you are a Hi-Lo player, both books are necessary. Furthermore, I would dare to say that this latest book written by Don and Gronbog can easily be used as a guide for other systems.
The order of importance of plays is quite general and goes beyond the I18. Not to mention if you come across games with surrender.
Sincerely,
Cac
Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.
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