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    Don’t ever become a full time card counter

    If you have the skills to succeed you have the skills in business to make a lot more. Everything I do business wise I build for the future and ever dollar I made counting I got harder and harder to play. I would say recreational only but who wants a hobby that could result in a net loss. You have to play so many hours in today’s shitty game to but you at the best possible chance to be ahead for the year that your most likely better served spending that time doing something else. Finding your passion, working towards a long term goal , spending time with friends or family

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    One more thing to add. If you a professional advantage player ( make your living off money won for a casino) and are averaging more then 250-300k a year it is highly likely you will get a criminal record regardless if you did anything illegal or not. Casinos hate winners.

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    It's OK to do for a while but eventually getting a game in the modern environment becomes an issue. I'd say do it short term and have an exit plan. It's great though as side income. Expenses are the real enemy to an AP who plays to a realistic risk level. That and the unfair tax code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayer View Post
    It's OK to do for a while but eventually getting a game in the modern environment becomes an issue. I'd say do it short term and have an exit plan. It's great though as side income. Expenses are the real enemy to an AP who plays to a realistic risk level. That and the unfair tax code.

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    Move to Canada. Even without an outside source of income, it’s really tough to be classified as a pro for tax purposes. With an outside income source - damn near impossible. Further, Canada/US tax treaty treats Canadian table games players very generously. Slot 0,Ayers also have favourable tax status (as in lower tax rates than US residents)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatlife View Post
    who wants a hobby that could result in a net loss
    Name some hobbies that are profitable. Certainly not golf, traveling, gardening, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayer View Post
    I'd say do it short term and have an exit plan. It's great though as side income.
    I'd second both those statements. I've done it fulltime for months at a time when between payroll jobs. Now, it is basically the source of my grocery and incidentals money. Even with that modest income, it allows me to funnel most of my payroll income into mortgage paydown, retirement savings, and other investment. Only "needing" modest amounts takes pressure off as well as allows me to play at a level that attracts less attention.

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    @Goatlife

    LoL I'm becoming full time this weekend.

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    I have the skills to succeed at blackjack but I DON'T have the skills to succeed in anything else lololol

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    I was made for this. And honestly smallcap you're giving wayyyy too much credit to urself and other "professional blackjack players". You're saying if you can add or subtract some numbers you have the skills to become anything you want. WTF bro.

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    I'm basically doing Halves, full indices, quarter deck true count conversion till the cows come home

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