Advantage Play Workshop Nov 9th

**Midwest Player** · 09-25-2019, 10:10 PM

I came across this and thought it might be of some interest to a few players. Before you get too excited check out the price at the bottom.
https://rxgamble.com/

**stopgambling** · 09-25-2019, 10:18 PM

$2500 is not a expensive . imo

**21forme** · 09-26-2019, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by stopgambling

$2500 is not a expensive . imo

It is for a yokel who has been a red chipper for 30 years and thinks $10/hour is a good wage.

**rxgamble** · 09-26-2019, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by 21forme

It is for a yokel who has been a red chipper for 30 years and thinks $10/hour is a good wage.

There are "yokel" holecarders who are perfectly happy grinding red chips. If you're in the casino anyway, it won't hurt you to know what to look for and get some higher edge action down, but if you're content where you are that's cool too.

**Midwest Player** · 09-28-2019, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by 21forme

It is for a yokel who has been a red chipper for 30 years and thinks $10/hour is a good wage.

I might be a red chipper but certainly not uneducated. I did graduate with honors from one of the top 50 Public Universities in America. You then get to wear those silly honor cords at graduation with your cap and grown. https://www.niche.com/colleges/searc...-universities/

However, in my case I'm at the end of my blackjack playing years and it wouldn't be worth it for me anymore. I will also say I'm more impressed with this than those $3,000 Blackjack Boot camps.

I will just make a few comments on the following from rxgamble's site on this.
You will not be notified of the exact location of the workshop until 1 hour before (start time will be around noon). No bags, at all. No backpacks, fanny packs, purses. Nothing. No recording devices. You’ll have to empty your pockets before you go in and we will wand you with a metal detector. Nothing is allowed to be taken into the room with you. Either leave your phone at home or turn it off and put it in a box with the other attendees. Seriously, no phones. Pen and paper will be provided. If you’re not okay with this, don’t register. If it appears like you are secretly recording we will call you out.

Whatever name and contact information you choose to give when registering will be kept confidential. The details of your attendance will be kept confidential. Completely.

Really only one hour lead time. Not everybody has a car in Vegas. Some folks use public transportation and are not familiar with the city. I don't think an hour lead time is enough. I do think more information could be given out without disclosing the exact location. Is it going to be in a private home or convention room of some hotel? Will it be near the strip or downtown area within easy access of public transportation?

I know if I had an expensive phone I wouldn't want it thrown in a box with other phones. Maybe better to line then up along a table and give out identify tickets and watch as folks pick them up. I do think more information should be given out. There is no mention of how long this is planned to last. Just some food for thought.

**21forme** · 09-28-2019, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Midwest Player

Really only one hour lead time. Not everybody has a car in Vegas. Some folks use public transportation and are not familiar with the city.

That's why Uber and taxis were invented. You have to think outside the red chip at times.

Regarding killing the golden goose, I think the seminar is a good thing. I've seen too many neophyte HCers who are waaay too obvious. If the seminar covers technique, which I'm sure it will, it can only help. Regarding price, I assume that includes a copy of Ex CAA

Actually, I don't need one as I have one of the originals purchased for $250...

**rxgamble** · 09-26-2019, 02:28 AM

I don’t think it’s overpriced either, but I’m biased. Also it’s $2100

Nobody will walk out of the workshop feeling cheated, and if they did they can call me, but they won’t.

**refinery** · 09-26-2019, 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by rxgamble

I don’t think it’s overpriced either, but I’m biased. Also it’s $2100

Nobody will walk out of the workshop feeling cheated, and if they did they can call me, but they won’t.

For a good time, read the thread(s) about the Blackjack Apprenticeship bootcamps and how they're "overpriced". Don't waste your time trying to convince anyone here of the value.

**Member Name Hidden** · 09-26-2019, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by rxgamble

I don’t think it’s overpriced either, but I’m biased. Also it’s $2100

Nobody will walk out of the workshop feeling cheated, and if they did they can call me, but they won’t.

You mentioned wanding. Are there other alternatives for pacemakers?

**rxgamble** · 09-26-2019, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Member Name Hidden

You mentioned wanding. Are there other alternatives for pacemakers?

I hadn't even thought of this possibility tbh. If you'd like to come to the workshop and have this issue you can email me and we can figure out a solution. Thanks! [email protected]

**ummagumma** · 09-26-2019, 02:46 AM

Personally I think it too cheap. What if there are 50 or 100 attendees ? Isn't that going to have a significant effect on the longevity of holecarding in the US ? Or do you think we're in the throes of the last hoorah of holecarding anyway, so it's probably not going to be around long enough for the attendees to take any real advantage of what they'll learn ?

**rxgamble** · 09-26-2019, 03:38 AM

We definitely are not nearing the end of a holecarding era. Your point about saturating the market is valid. I’m not giving a TED talk here, this workshop will have a double digit number of attendees. If it’s the case that I have so many registrations that it might be difficult for someone to ask a question and be heard, I will split the workshop into two separate sessions, a small group Saturday and another Sunday.

Something thats being overlooked is the other topics being covered. I would expect APs or those aspiring to be, who aren’t even that interested in holecarding and do some other move, counting to sequencing and beyond, to be attending solely for the surveillance portion. It’s that valuable imo.

**ummagumma** · 09-26-2019, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by rxgamble

We definitely are not nearing the end of a holecarding era. Your point about saturating the market is valid. I’m not giving a TED talk here, this workshop will have a double digit number of attendees. If it’s the case that I have so many registrations that it might be difficult for someone to ask a question and be heard, I will split the workshop into two separate sessions, a small group Saturday and another Sunday.

Something thats being overlooked is the other topics being covered. I would expect APs or those aspiring to be, who aren’t even that interested in holecarding and do some other move, counting to sequencing and beyond, to be attending solely for the surveillance portion. It’s that valuable imo.

Understood. Thx for the speedy reply