Counting system change or add side counting?

[Dbs6582]

When the dealer is slow and I get bored, I find better things to do...check out the hostesses, ploppies, fantasize...

I’m a good multitasker. I do that too. Lol. I’ve never seen a downside it trying to get more information.

[BoSox]

I’m a good multitasker. I do that too. Lol. I’ve never seen a downside it trying to get more information.

What, well I never.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPSGB4Bxwzc

[Gramazeka]

Three, I somewhat hate to admit it but this is one of your best posts. At least for me, it hit home since I only play pitch games and have thought about moving past Hilo. Currently, as some know, I have a hybrid approach where I use Hilo but also side count aces and sometimes 7s and then make adjustments to Hilo. Also, even though I don’t use a level 2 count, I keep a mental note if I’ve seen more 4 or 5s compared to 2 and 3s and make adjustments in my betting. With all this said, I have thought about moving up to a true ace neutral count. It would probably be hi opt 1 since I think hi opt 2 will be too taxing for me based on my objectives, which is to enjoy my time while I’m in the casino but still win some money. Hilo is like riding a bicycle. I can easily carry on conservations while I’m doing it.

Btw, I wouldn’t be too hard on Zee. I’ve learned a lot from him and appreciate his honest approach to the game. We pretty much have the same goals and objectives when it comes to bj. It’s good to hear from a fellow recreational part time AP who plays rated, enjoys the casino experience, and cares about creating harmony at the table. I also use his shoe box method to keep track of my results, but for me it’s not a shoe box. I used to keep detailed records but I found this took too much time, and I really didn’t care about the detailed results anyway. For me, the important thing is to see if I’m playing a winning game so the shoebox approach has worked. That means I’ll never be able to post one of those graphs that show my progress. I keep all my gambling money in one place and haven’t touch it. It has grown nicely the last three years, when I’ve taken the game more seriously, but I’m still not even close to pro-serious.

I’m probably like Zee too in that I don’t really care about the ridicule that comes with not taking this game so seriously. My self worth doesn’t come from what some bj pro thinks. I care more about family, friends and what’s going on in my job. I also probably care more about what the ploppies and casino staff think of me in my local casinos than what some bj pro thinks of me. I’m just being honest. I love playing bj as a side hobby but it will never define me. Thanks for your help, and I mean that! It doesn’t bother me when you put me or other people down when you give advice because I’ve learned from Zee that this is just a byproduct of being a full time pro.

Dbs6582, i recommend for you EBJ 2

https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/sh...653#post164653

[Dbs6582]

Dbs6582, i recommend for you EBJ 2

https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/sh...653#post164653

Thanks for the link Gramazeka. I need to spend some more time going through all the threads but this looks like something I could add to what I’m doing. I’d like to stay with a simple count like Hilo but I’m always looking for little things I can add to it. I know it doesn’t get me much, but it does hurt anything either.

[Dbs6582]

When the dealer is slow and I get bored, I find better things to do...check out the hostesses, ploppies, fantasize...

Zee, I noticed your last two posts have been critical of how I play. My comments were only based on what I do. I’ve never advised anybody to do this. I’ve commented several times this probably doesn’t get me much. The only reason I mentioned how I keep side counts is because someone asked.

It appears you’ve become what you criticize others of doing...criticizing others for doing nothing more than saying what they do. I’m wondering if you’ve been spending so much time in casinos that you’ve started getting that “nasty” edge to you? Do you now come on this forum to take out your “hostilities” on somebody who doesn’t play like you? Lol.

[cc12b]

One of course, is the now underground regaled FBM ASC

Freightman, would you pleas elaborate in details your method, just kidding. I use letters in A S C and trying to use Spanish in counting 7s but unable to keep 3 counts in my head. I know that not all ideas is suitable for everybody so I would try any idea you put out when you learn 3 counts at same time.

They use different mathematical "languages" to keep side counts

Three, do you have link or document for it?

I do for keeping side counts. I mostly use chips.

. Let me see if I can do this way in my locals

Thanks all of you.

[ZeeBabar]

Zee, I noticed your last two posts have been critical of how I play. My comments were only based on what I do. I’ve never advised anybody to do this. I’ve commented several times this probably doesn’t get me much. The only reason I mentioned how I keep side counts is because someone asked.

It appears you’ve become what you criticize others of doing...criticizing others for doing nothing more than saying what they do. I’m wondering if you’ve been spending so much time in casinos that you’ve started getting that “nasty” edge to you? Do you now come on this forum to take out your “hostilities” on somebody who doesn’t play like you? Lol.

Dbs, I was just trying to be funny. When I am bored and the dealer is slow, my eyes wonder off to hostesses and good looking ploppies. I was also not criticizing you for side counts with HiLo, I didnt see it as of much help with HiLo. Dont take it personal.

[Freightman]

Freightman, would you pleas elaborate in details your method, just kidding. I use letters in A S C and trying to use Spanish in counting 7s but unable to keep 3 counts in my head. I know that not all ideas is suitable for everybody so I would try any idea you put out when you learn 3 counts at same time

I knew one guy who had his girlfriend literally sit in his lap while he counted the main game, and she counted the side bet. She would jab him in the ribs when it came time to play the side bet. A similar approach can be adapted to the FBM ASC. It does allow the player to keep both hands above the table, but does require absolute pure focus. The potential rigid output created could easily create a reduced oxygenated blood flow through the main players neural pathways, thus resulting in decreased efficiency usage of additional information gained.

I could explain the protocol in further detail, however, suffice it to say that the methodology espoused lends new meaning to the phrase - get a grip.

assume I play hi lo (I don't). I'll structure my bets in accordance with the imbalance of high versus low cards. Ask yourself how the density of intermediates influences my overall success rate. Will I adjust my upper bets if I don't care for the current density of high versus middle versus low cards. Enough for today.

[Dbs6582]

Dbs, I was just trying to be funny. When I am bored and the dealer is slow, my eyes wonder off to hostesses and good looking ploppies. I was also not criticizing you for side counts with HiLo, I didnt see it as of much help with HiLo. Dont take it personal.

Point taken. I’ll be less sensitive next time. You also said in a previous post this doesn’t get you much. I’ve mentioned this many times. I know it doesn’t get me much. Don has even chimed in on this topic.

The problem is I’ve gotten to where side counting aces has become second nature for me to where I don’t even use chips. That’s why I’m thinking of moving to an ace neutral count. The problem is I’ve used Hilo for so long I don’t know if I want to make that switch. I’ll probably just keep doing that side counting thing.

[Freightman]

Dbs, I was just trying to be funny. When I am bored and the dealer is slow, my eyes wonder off to hostesses and good looking ploppies. I was also not criticizing you for side counts with HiLo, I didnt see it as of much help with HiLo. Dont take it personal.

Fantasizing on the cw's ganzagas can indeed be distracting. I think it was about 22 years ago, that my younger son, then 12, told me - dad, when dancing with a girl, it is considered uncool to pop a woody. Definite merit to the comment.

DBS is just yanking your chain. Simply check his posting history. Pretty tough for a numbskull to take something personally.

[Dbs6582]

DBS is just yanking your chain. Simply check his posting history. Pretty tough for a numbskull to take something personally.

Not bad advice Freightman. You're starting to understand me. Lol. I don’t take too much personally when it comes to my bj expertise. I’ve never claimed to be an expert. I enjoy the game and I’m always trying to learn. But I did take it a little personal when Zee told me I should stick with Hilo and not expand on it.

My feeling is stick with with the simplest system possible, which for me has always been Hilo, but always try to expand on it when possible. I love reading bj books and these forums. I’ve been picking up some pointers on these forums that has helped my game. I know 84 indexes but probably have never used most of them. I’m also doing more with the middle cards but I don’t think it’s helped me much yet either.

[BoSox]

I know 84 indexes but probably have never used most of them.

What, did you memorize all the numbers for true counts that are negative ten and below?

[Three]

Three, do you have link or document for it?

Can you get PMs. Or maybe invite me to a private chat in the chat room?