Clarfication needed on the closed thread about Exoter and Ryemo

[Three]

I mean, its obvious from my posts that I am a flawed recreational counter with a bit of good variance, that other posters are good BJ AP's, so why is it that people do not know what you do unless you are not clear about it?

Yes, because you are dumb enough to post every detail about your play which resulted in you getting blackbooked. Most posters are smart enough not to give casinos a road map that makes it easy to identify them. When they don't make identifying them from posts easy it also makes it impossible for anyone else to know what they are doing from their posts. Only people that have an offline relationship with them get a somewhat better look at what the individual does. How good a look is up to the individual. Some will get full disclosure. Some will get part of the story and some will get valuable information but be allowed to not really learn anything about what the individual does. Now exactly how much credibility is a gullible poster such as yourself going to give people that know absolutely nothing about reality and base their comments on what the individual is comfortable revealing to the many casino staffers that lurk and post here. Often the trolls troll because that gets people to give more information than they otherwise would for the casinos to use against the AP community as a whole. I have been guilty of feeding the trolls in the past but I am working on getting better at that. I find just putting them on ignore and not reading their posts to be 100% effective when my personal makeup makes any other approach far less effective at not feeding the casino employee trolls when they fish for info.

[Dbs6582]

Yes, because you are dumb enough to post every detail about your play which resulted in you getting blackbooked. Most posters are smart enough not to give casinos a road map that makes it easy to identify them. When they don't make identifying them from posts easy it also makes it impossible for anyone else to know what they are doing from their posts. Only people that have an offline relationship with them get a somewhat better look at what the individual does. How good a look is up to the individual. Some will get full disclosure. Some will get part of the story and some will get valuable information but be allowed to not really learn anything about what the individual does. Now exactly how much credibility is a gullible poster such as yourself going to give people that know absolutely nothing about reality and base their comments on what the individual is comfortable revealing to the many casino staffers that lurk and post here. Often the trolls troll because that gets people to give more information than they otherwise would for the casinos to use against the AP community as a whole. I have been guilty of feeding the trolls in the past but I am working on getting better at that. I find just putting them on ignore and not reading their posts to be 100% effective when my personal makeup makes any other approach far less effective at not feeding the casino employee trolls when they fish for info.

Are you serious Three? You think casinos are spending time on these forums picking up nuggets of information to back people off? How do you think APs that don’t post details about their trips get backed off? Hint hint. It might have something to do with how they play, like raising their bet with the count.

You're the dumb one if you don’t understand what gets counters backed off. Hopefully, you have me on ignore so you don’t have to know what I think of this post. My favorite is when you replied to one of my posts while showing me you had me on ignore, but then telling me you had got emails from your friends letting you know what I said. Hint hint. It’s easier to just read a post first hand, rather than getting this information second hand. It just takes a little will power to not respond.

You need to learn from Freighman. He’s been very good at not responding. I’m really proud of him. I didn’t think he’d be able to do it.

[BoSox]

It is clear they are trying to make people believe I don't know anything about BJ with those statements. Why would they want to make people believe such a lie?

No, I do not believe that is true at all since some of them are former members here they have seen first hand what myself and others here have also found out to be very true. Some threads on this board that were strictly all about blackjack you often opined in those threads about successes you have had, without one mention "for a long time going" that those successes were often the result of playing Spanish 21, not blackjack. What else can you call it but deception? For whatever reasons is beyond me.

Why would they want to make people believe such a lie?

Three, I will ask you why did you keep that information private for so long?

[Three]

Some threads on this board that were strictly all about blackjack you often opined in those threads about successes you have had, without one mention "for a long time going" that those successes were often the result of playing Spanish 21, not blackjack. What else can you call it but deception? For whatever reasons is beyond me.

Yes, I did that. Like all my nuggets, that everyone find so valuable I make them vague. The reason why should be obvious. The casinos feel SP21 was a tough enough game to beat that it needed no protection and they are right in most cases. They don't feel that way about BJ. If you can't fill in the blanks then you don't understand what you should not post about. But I did continue to kill BJ during that same time transferring techniques from game to game. the techniques just were't worth as much in BJ. I only posted results because those people were trying to say I never play for significant stakes or won much so I posted my winnings for card counting. I never actually said it was for BJ, I said I made it counting cards. They made that assumption. Whenever I specifically said BJ I was talking about BJ. I tried really hard to be consistent with that. When I said counting cards it could include BJ or SP21 or Switch or Superfun-21 etc. When I said BJ it was BJ. Most likely I made a mistake at some point. And there was a point when I was protecting the game. So you can have my expertise on sensitive stuff not many people know about encrypted or you can have no access to it in order to protect the game. I try to get people to think about doing research for themselves in fruitful directions. I don't expose revolutionary new ideas on an open forum in a way to expose the play. It is your choice of no information or clues to get you thinking outside the box and getting an edge the casinos don't know about. I have been too sharing on that front and it pisses the people off that want the opportunities protected and it pisses the people off that want things handed to them. I have news for the latter, things that are handed to them are no longer cutting edge. As long as they are cutting edge advantages the casino is clueless about it is protected by everyone on the inside.

I hope this can make you understand. In retrospect I shouldn't have tried to be helpful to others. It had a lot of risk for exposing new opportunities and I caught a ton of shit from almost everyone. I have learned my lessen and have a research project well underway and a couple more waiting in the wings for groundbreaking new opportunities and you can bet I will not share any info on the open forum because of all the shit I caught from trying to both share what I was comfortable with while protecting myself and the new opportunities I had innovated.

Since the incidents that you are referring to many years ago I had a few new innovations that I didn't share that I would have in one case just handed to people and in other cases cryptically steered people who do their own research in a new direction for promising research. These detractors have cost those that would benefit from my work a lot already and will continue to cost them in the future. Research takes a lot of time. Some I can do myself. Those that help me doing the rest of my research only have so much time they can invest in helping me. I owe them a lot and appreciate all their time and help. They know who they are. I can't thank you all enough for your help and discretion. Thank you very much.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

Three (and Tarzan) I have known (personally) for a decade and a half.
Three's desire to teach others is tempered by his anxieties that it is
possible for him to be outed either by one of the disturbed characters
who are banned from BJTF, or inadvertently, by others.

As such, Three must overcome self-imposed obstacles. Fundamentally,
he is a very knowledgable veteran player.

[ShipTheCookies]

Hip waders aren't enough for the amount of bullshit flying on this site....

REAL PROS aren't discussing ANYTHING on message boards. And they certainly don't have 10k+ posts!

[Freightman]

Hip waders aren't enough for the amount of bullshit flying on this site....

REAL PROS aren't discussing ANYTHING on message boards. And they certainly don't have 10k+ posts!

You really are a negative piece of crap, as evidenced by a review of your posts. Whose sock are you anyways?

[BoSox]

Yes, I did that. Like all my nuggets, that everyone find so valuable I make them vague. The reason why should be obvious. The casinos feel SP21 was a tough enough game to beat that it needed no protection and they are right in most cases. They don't feel that way about BJ. If you can't fill in the blanks then you don't understand what you should not post about.

In the last sentence in the above quote is just one line of a familiar pattern that you like to use when someone gives you a question that you find offensive. After all, you are above scrutiny and should never have to account for yourself in any way, as this should already be understood. Well in BoSox's mind I think you expect and demand the spotlight far much too often. I also think you like to brag, and do not realize everyone else does not care either way. I believe your above story about protecting the other game that you were playing with a higher EV edge, but there is no excuse whatsoever that you could not have made that very clear without spilling the beans. You by saying things like the following:

never actually said it was for BJ, I said I made it counting cards. They made that assumption.

That's right, and who made most of those assumptions? Mostly new players learning the game, they suddenly had a hero which was fine by you. Your self-centeredness gets in the way every time, who cares if the new guys are not completely informed right Three.

But I did continue to kill BJ during that same time transferring techniques from game to game. the techniques just were't worth as much in BJ.

Speaking of those techniques you use, those are a private system developed by you completely unpublished that is only known and shared with a very few close friends correct? Obviously talking about or bragging about your results was rather meaningless to the rest of the board and still is.

[Three]

That's right, and who made most of those assumptions? Mostly new players learning the game, they suddenly had a hero which was fine by you. Your self-centeredness gets in the way every time, who cares if the new guys are not completely informed.

First of all nothing I posted gave anyone my method. I posted info that gave people inspiration for new research if they were so inclined. A few contacted me privately and I was frank with them from the start and helped them as much as I could in parallel development. I don't want a following and have spent considerable time making myself look like an idiot on the forum to try and keep that from happening.

Speaking of those techniques you use, those are a private system developed by you completely unpublished that is only known and shared with a very few close friends correct? Obviously talking about or bragging about your results was rather meaningless to the rest of the board.

Exactly. How can a player be damaged when they have no system to follow. I made them think outside the box which would lead to some of them rising to potentials they otherwise wouldn't. That is all I have tried to do. Help people exceed the potential they otherwise would have had. I know with quite a few I was successful in this. But I can't be expected to help everyone in that way. I know you have read the posts from the players that played for years with just Hilo and the I18 because they were told it was all they needed. They took that as they shouldn't aspire for more. It was only intended to indicate it was a starting point. Once they are ready, they can expand on that, but some people didn't understand that is what people meant when they chose their words poorly. Did you (the general/plural sense of the pronoun) help them by choosing your words poorly and not mentioning that you should always be looking to find ways to improve your edge? Who in fact did the damage? The one that inspired them to increase their edge or the one that told them all they needed was the I18 and Hilo causing them to make no further effort to increase their edge?

[mcallister3200]

Wtf is every single thread, and 80% of posts within any thread turn into complete three rambling garbage by page 2.

[Norm]

There are people here that think a post is an opportunity to attack someone.

[Three]

Wtf is every single thread, and 80% of posts within any thread turn into complete three rambling garbage by page 2.

Sorry. I will have to put more of the posters that like to bait me on my ignore list.

[Dbs6582]

Wtf is every single thread, and 80% of posts within any thread turn into complete three rambling garbage by page 2.

Are you serious? “Rambling garbage”? The key is you have to “think outside the box” to pull out all the “nuggets”. In these rambling posts, Three hides little nuggets. You’re probably like me, an “inside the box” thinker. This means you and I will never be able to see all the “nuggets”.