Mohegan Sun Ct goes 6:5.

[21forme]

I suggest you delete that line above.

[paymypush]

I suggest you delete that line above.

I gave it careful consideration before posting thinking that anyone playing that game doesn't deserve a break. Perhaps that was a little harsh. Line deleted.

[21forme]

There may be some APs playing it, one way or another, and every little advantage helps.

[Dbs6582]

Originally Posted by Dbs6582
If you don’t like different views, or a more pro-business slant to various topics than I’d suggest putting me on ignore. Several APs have already done this because they can’t handle views that are different than theirs.



Ok, I like to hear your perspective on what is going on with the Mohegan Sun's blackjack game? After almost two decades of just minor experiments on the small side rooms, suddenly now they make a major change out of the clear blue. The Sun and Foxwoods has a joint venture going for a new casino in the Winsor Locks area, but the MGM Grand opens August 24 in Springfield only 20 miles away.

My view is pretty clear. Read Don’s post right above yours. This is what I’ve been saying all along. Casinos are a business and the morons are playing these games so it’s working. The market has spoken and it’s okay with 6:5. If the morons quite playing these games, the caisnos will have to go back to 3:2.

I lived on on the east coast for 7 years about 10 years ago and played several times at MS and Foxwoods. I didn’t like the games back then so I didn’t play much. The games in the east coast are not near as good as they are in the south.

I play for fun, but if I’m not winning or know the game is difficult to beat based on the SCORE, then I don’t play it. If the games keep deteriorating, I’ll move on to other things. The casinos offer the games and it’s our choice if we want to play them. I will will no longer play bj when I find the games so difficult to beat they are no longer fun.

With all this said, I don’t and won’t blame the casinos. It’s their customers that have allowed this to happen. Even in the south, I’ve seen 6:5 pop up more and more. And I’ve seen more ploppies playing at casinos with 6:5 than a good 3:2 game, even though the two casinos are within 3 miles of each other. Why? Because the casino that has the 6:5 games has more bells and whistles, higher ceilings, bigger chandeliers and newer carpet. This appears to be all ploppies care about. Sad.

[paymypush]

Good post. Your view is very clear and it hits the nail directly on the head.

One more thing that these players care about is low minimums. The 6:5 games are all $10 minimums. There are always 3:2 games with $15 minimums available that they would never consider. Nevermind 6:5. At this point I think these fools would play $5 or $10 tables if a natural paid even money. I'll bet the casino can't wait for the weekend. Sad indeed.

[Sharky]

...Since this has been studied so much, I would think there is somebody that should know the exact pen percentage for maximum profits...

seriously?...the comedy continues....ROTFLMAO!!!....that's the thing about common sense....NOT so common!!!

[Halbruno]

I hope they will see a decrease in the number of big players. Maybe then they'll wake up! The $50 tables are usually busy there. The players are usually pretty good. Maybe now they'll move on to the Newport Room or former MGM at Foxwoods. They always have more dealers than players and the 6D game is better than what was, sadly, at Mohegan.

[paymypush]

I hope they will see a decrease in the number of big players. Maybe then they'll wake up! The $50 tables are usually busy there. The players are usually pretty good. Maybe now they'll move on to the Newport Room or former MGM at Foxwoods. They always have more dealers than players and the 6D game is better than what was, sadly, at Mohegan.

I hope Foxwoods doesn't get any ideas. Hal, do you remember when the MGM high limit pit at Foxwoods, now the Fox Tower, hit soft 17? This was probably 5 or 6 years ago. They 'made up for it' by allowing aces to be re split. How generous of them!

[Jabberwocky]

Good post. Your view is very clear and it hits the nail directly on the head.

One more thing that these players care about is low minimums. At this point I think these fools would play $5 or $10 tables if a natural paid even money.

Right. I played at a native store a while back. They had punters playing $1 minimums and blackjacks were 1-1.

[ShipTheCookies]

Right. I played at a native store a while back. They had punters playing $1 minimums and blackjacks were 1-1.

I've seen the exact same thing. And, they were also paying a 25 cent ante on top of this for this "PRIVILEGE."

[paymypush]

I've seen the exact same thing. And, they were also paying a 25 cent ante on top of this for this "PRIVILEGE."

Foxwoods has 2 $1 minimum tables in the Fox Tower. There is a 25 cent ante and the games are dealt from CSMs of course. If a player bets $10 or higher the ante is waived.

I can't tell you how many times I've walked by and seen someone betting 2 or even 3 spots at $5 with the quarter on each hand. Even more baffling is the fact that there regular games steps away at $10 and $15 minimums. It defies logic.

[BoSox]

MGM opens in Springfield on 8/24/18 and I assume the games are going to suck, other than the hi-limit area which will be watched closely. Mohegan Sun who for the most part always had good rules and poor pen for twenty years. Now they make drastic changes a few months before they get a new competitor the timing seems baffling, to say the least as I still do not see the logic. Mass. players will have no reason to ever go back. The joint venture between Foxwoods/Sun is still two years away from opening.

[Dbs6582]

Foxwoods has 2 $1 minimum tables in the Fox Tower. There is a 25 cent ante and the games are dealt from CSMs of course. If a player bets $10 or higher the ante is waived.

I can't tell you how many times I've walked by and seen someone betting 2 or even 3 spots at $5 with the quarter on each hand. Even more baffling is the fact that there regular games steps away at $10 and $15 minimums. It defies logic.

I think I can one up you. There is a popular casino in my area that just put in antes on their low limit tables. I heard this from some ploppies and I told a pit critter I know well at a casino I frequent some. He didn’t beleieve me so he called some pit bosses he knew at this casino. I saw him talking on the phone laughing and then he came back to tak to me.

He said I was right, they had just put in an ante on the low limit tables. He said the guy he was talking to said some of their customers play at these tables but will still always bet much higher than the table min, even though they could move to another table close by and not have to pay the ante.

So it goes to show you, the pit critters laugh at the ploppies too and can’t believe how dumb they are. Why pay an ante when you don’t have too? Just move to another table.