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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    I stand by my statement with the proviso Re: bet spread and Bankroll.

    If those are "good strategies" then what are poor strategies; or are all equal?
    Level 1 counts like KO and TKO are good strategies but not as good as counting strategy like Zen and Hi-Opt 2. I still think level 1 counts are good strategies even though I no longer use them anymore. Since I have move on to a level 3 count system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    So we are at this again. I forgot how this turned out. Well whose dick was bigger?
    Perhaps you could provide a Novello, giving a comprehensive statistical analysis of the subject, comparing the info by age, race, further making allowances for sexual frequency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Jackson View Post
    Hey serious player could you tell me how to set up Cvdata again using the "betting side count" function for two counts? Im not sure im doing it correctly..
    See attach pictures for explanation. When you finish the simulation hit "Call CVCX".

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    Its going to mess everything up when you are simulating a running count system and you use true count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousplayer View Post
    See attach pictures for explanation. When you finish the simulation hit "Call CVCX".

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    Its going to mess everything up when you are simulating a running count system and you use true count.
    Thanks Dude!
    http://bjstrat.net/cgi-bin/cdca.cgi

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    Grama' ... You are only partially correct. Those counts (K.O. and T.K.O.)

    only perform well when you are utilizing an aggressive bet spread

    and have the bankroll to keep your Risk of Ruin to a reasonable level.

    I have many students whose games I have improved mightily by rescuing

    them from counts that ultimately lead to meager earnings and BACKOFFS.

    KO for good pen, TKO for bad pen. Very good simple count for shoes game.

    Camouflage with Hi Opt 2 ? It is nonsense ! ))
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka;225159[I
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    "Camouflage with Hi Opt 2 ? It is nonsense !"[/I]
    I know that English isn't your primary language,
    but what you posted has no meaning as stated.


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    You won't be able to hide the professional game when using the count Hi Opt 2 better, than it will make the counter which will use KO in conditions shoes game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    "You won't be able to hide the professional game when using the count Hi Opt 2
    better, than it will make the counter which will use KO in conditionsshoes game."
    You have that completely backwards.

    The closer the counting tags are to Hi-Lo,

    the stronger
    the correlation is to what surveillance is using

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    You have that completely backwards.

    The closer the counting tags are to Hi-Lo,

    the stronger
    the correlation is to what surveillance is using
    Not necessarily. Some places will use a program which calculates the effect of EOR's against the remaining deck composition. Good luck trying to hide a count system with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    You have that completely backwards.

    The closer the counting tags are to Hi-Lo,

    the stronger
    the correlation is to what surveillance is using
    I am surprised to your wide experience and that nonsense that you tell.

    P.S. Maybe you joke?
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    In olden days, the Z-Man told casino folk to assume HiLo for shoes and Hi-Opt I for pitch. But, even then I doubted it made what difference the count you used for cover purposes. Now, I doubt it matters much at all, whether the casino goes by feel or uses sophisticated software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    In olden days, the Z-Man told casino folk to assume HiLo for shoes and Hi-Opt I for pitch. But, even then I doubted it made what difference the count you used for cover purposes. Now, I doubt it matters much at all, whether the casino goes by feel or uses sophisticated software.
    They use both. I just played the other day at a store without sophisticated surveillance. I was counted down by a critter, who at the least, was semi competent. Went for dinner, returned, and my juicy 1.0 max cut, deteriorated to 2.25 decks. Stuck around for a coup,e if shoes, fir appearances sake.

    For whatever reason, I'm akways digging. Self out if a hole in this p,ace. I get out, most if the time, though I've taken some fair sized hits at this place. To soon to discuss numbers, but I did leave with a respectable profit after being in a few k.

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    But would it have mattered with a different count?
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