You guys are boring me to death. If you want to compare counting systems, then read BJA3. The math is settled.
Pick a counting system that you understand and can apply, and then play cards!!
Chances are that your best system will be overcome by variance, and you'll never know it in your lifetime....
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Enough with the freaking counting system debates. We all were bombarded with the vitriole which surrounded Tthree's defense of his 2-D methodology (mainly about his attack of a blackjack variant), with a few longstanding AP's questioning both his integrity, and the effects of his claims on new counters.
Needless to say, there are a myriad of counting systems out there for users to find. GIYF, or buy some books online or at your local bookstore.
If you are satisfied with a system, and can play it accurately, then you may be content remaining with it. And others may be interested in pursuing the challenge and benefits (amount subject to debate, that I am not interested in engaging in with others) of learning more complicated methods.
To each his/her own. It is not my place to judge what works best for others. It is only my responsibility to ensure that I know my own needs and limits, and use those tools best suited to help me meet my goals.
So as I stated above, enough with the neverending debate over the superiority of one system versus another. Education and a desire to exchange information is lofty, but boasting about the inferiority of another user's system in order to stroke one's own ego to prove that he/she is a better or more talented AP, does nothing to serve the collective interests and needs of the membership of this community.
Just my $1.02.
Last edited by Frank Galvin; 12-20-2016 at 07:22 AM.
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Frank. I agree. This particular thread started with a nice ole gent wanting some comparison on some basics that is not a puter whiz. Nothing wrong with that.
The questions, boasts, and claims come from everywhere. The best answers come from what is within a person and CV Data.
The problem is catch phrases like keep sessions "short" and the "long" run come with no definition. SCORE is the anchor. All other aspects involved is a component to SCORE.
I tip my cap to Don S for his fine work. But no one is going to split 10s vs 5,6 everytime the count calls for it. Yet so many boast they play I'll 18. Another problem is the discussion often is about a game of cards played by people. In reality, we play a game of people played with cards.
It's the only competition where you lose when the opposition submits. The casino's made a jump from 104 to 312 cards and the blackjack world bought it. That being said, the discussion will NEVER cease about multi deck multiplayer wizards.
But some simple steps can be employed to be a competitive DD player. I'm amazed at the tools offered to help those to not just improve, but perfect their game. I'm even more shocked at the multitude of masses that turn a blind eye to it. I dont mind suffering a little boredom if it makes me money.
To enjoy success at single and DD is not rocket science. Evidently, it seems blackjack just happens to be played by Rocket Scientists.
Last edited by moses; 12-19-2016 at 10:18 PM.
No comment.Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash
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Moses...I posted this below on the wrong thread so am re-posting it here. (I'll get the hang of the site yet)......I took the KO maiden voyage last night across the river.....Lit on a dead quarter game and bought in for 12 units ($300)...Haven't memorized the KO playing strategy yet (I guess you youngsters call them indices), so I used one I know well, which is Revere's plus/minus strategy, page 31 in his "Playing BJ As A Business".....Yes, I know it is a very old, antiquated, simple and unsophisticated indice, but it has served me well in the past...His Plus/Minus tag values are close to KO's, and they seem to mesh well together....I played just under 2 hours and walked with $550, after toking off $20 to the dealer...I spread 1 to 2 units, and pressed 1 more unit to 3 units for the next bet if the C was right. If you do the math it works out to just over two top bets per hour, which is something no one here on the site will admit is possible using a 1 to 2 spread. For those folks in doubt I would refer them to Canfields book "Blackjack Your Way To Riches" pages 88 & 90.....I insured at running count +3, and never did use a True Count. So far I'm really liking this KO moses, it seems to present many more betting opportunities than did the Silver Fox strategy I've been using.....What say you?
Last edited by Ronster; 12-20-2016 at 09:09 AM.
Yeah, don’t listen to anything ZMF says about Blackjack…he’s only made a living playing this game (and other AP) for the past 2+ decades. What would he know, right?
I’ve personally witnessed him put into play and win more money than you’ve probably ever made in a single year.
So, incredible etiquette on your part: You join this great forum, are clearly a lime green novice, and one month later you’re lambasting one of few resident PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS on said forum. Nice job!! I’d say an apology is in order on your part. Stop. Trolling.
What does that mean?? That is bias because how do you know how much other people make in a single year? Not interested in knowing how much other people put in and win a year. The question is can that person teach the others to do the same!!
FireStarter. There is no question to Flash's lofty credentials. If someone wanted a tutor to teach them, Flash would be high, if not at the top of my list of recommendations.
We were all newbie's at one time or another. It's just a matter of how many decades one goes back. For many of us, the tools were not available as they are today. Ronster is special. He comes from the old school and has learned his continuation has been and will be with a game of finesse. The bulldozer approach simply will not work in a state that begins with the letter N for the most part.
Last edited by moses; 12-20-2016 at 11:12 AM.
In my humble opinion you have it just bass-akwards Fire-W....Flash has done nothing but denigrate me - and others - since I surfaced on this site. "Etiquette"?....Again, I have been nothing but a gentleman from jump, with the exception of finally replying to Flash's unwarranted snarky posts about yours truly!...."Lime green novice".....Once again you are showing your ass. I've been beating blackjack and many other casino games since the early 60's, from the inside and the outside. "2 decades he's been a pro you say"?....I haven't punched a clock in nearly 40 years...So welcome to the fray "birds of a feather"
Last edited by Ronster; 12-20-2016 at 11:38 AM.
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