Depending on your resource, I'm coming across different figures for recommended trip and session rolls, averaging to about 20 Max bets. What do you normally bring in units with you per day of planned play? What do you bring with you to each table?
Depending on your resource, I'm coming across different figures for recommended trip and session rolls, averaging to about 20 Max bets. What do you normally bring in units with you per day of planned play? What do you bring with you to each table?
You could play with 20, although that is pretty low. You can't really make a max bet unless you have 5 in your pocket. Technically you should have at least 8 if you are playing one hand since you theoretically could have to split 4 times and double each one. On the other hand if you are lucky enough to find a game without resplitting or doubling after the split 2 max bets is enough to place a wager! I think 30 or 40 is a good approach generally. Or just bring your whole bankroll.
The pro about taking entire BR or 20,30, 40kbis that you are in position to deal with the extremes that can happen but I believe you have to factor in your own personality and ability to handle volatility and other stuff. Most answers so far are from accomplished pros. For some of us lesser beings the answer is different.
To some, on a trip, it's easier to walk away from the tables at a particular casino when winning but very difficult when losing. The temptation exists to try to dig out of a hole and things can go terribly wrong. For example, 3 hours into a session, you are down $3k, tired and having slight success so you keep on playing. An hour or two later, down $5k and thinking of going back to your hotel room, wait another day, you get a good TC and a DDown and split opportunity, you draw another $1k and you win!!! Now, again with some chips in front of you, you keep playing and end the session with your trip bank roll gone and 2-3 more days to go on your trip. You hate yourself for losing so much, for playing too long, for playing when tired and more.
Thus, I would recommend having a trip bankroll, divide it up by days on trip. Then, take a session BR that is a third of the days BR for your first session of the day, I would suggest you look at your comfort level. I take $4k for my betting spread of $25-$300.
This is a serious factor that deserves prominence in this thread.Originally Posted by ZeeBabar
Can the player trust himself to maintain his equilibrium and relax
after some really bad variance, rather than "chasing" his losses.
Zee' is a self-admitted gambling addict. He earns a bit of respect
for his candid admission. He probably should not have immediate
access to a (possibly) large % of his bankroll.
A single max bet of $300 with a combination of (3) splits or double downs, you're looking at $1200 in a single round. 25% of your entire roll. There's not a lot of breathing room. Even worse if you're already down in the session and cannot reload for the next round.
What does it matter if you lose your whole trip roll in one day or over the course of 5 days? Heat aside, i would rather lose my entire session roll on the first day then to lose it slowly over 5 days. Youre cutting your sessions short if you leave after a certain down point. If you lose it all in the first day then you can go home and get the next session roll, maybe even downscale your spread, and then you have those 4 extra days left to go play again.
When I used a system similar to what you guys use I brought 60-80 max bets on a trip and was worried it wasn't enough. For a session I carried the whole thing but if you like to leave some in the safe half would be appropriate. The thing to remember is you don't want to appear to have too deep of pockets because that can be viewed as a threat given they no doubt know you are a counter. For this reason you don't want to have a huge total buy-in. But you want to have enough to not have to walk away from a monster count due to lack of funds so you never want to use most of your session money. I am talking about being prepared to meet 2 factors. The first, you shouldn't show too much money in a session. If you do make it appear you had to get more at some point. Second, you want to have enough to make sure a monster count gone bad doesn't see you having to walk away from a huge advantage due to lack of funds. So when weighing both factors, you need to have a lot more money than you want to actually put in use for a session.
I'm leaving on a 3-4 day trip this afternoon. I'll be carrying 25k. There will be 2500 in my wallet, 2500, elasticized in a shirt button down pocket. If it appears that I'll need more, I'll discreetly go to the John, pull out a 5 pack, splitting the funds as previously described.
I also don't like to be seen as having endless funds. Some trips, I need to go in for funds, other trips, I never have to go in further than the initial buy in.
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