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    Quote Originally Posted by stopgambling View Post
    The casino that i have played all showed/inspect both sides of cards when changing cards. It does seemed strange and out of the norm , but it does not mean i agree that they cheat.
    Same. The dealers at my main store have to sign off that they verified that all the cards are there when getting new cards. I see them go through each suit making sure there isn't any duplicates or missing cards. Then when the cards are retired, the dealers sit down and break the cards back down into decks and sign again to verify that all the cards are still there. It does seem odd that LW's store wouldn't inspect the decks before putting them into play. Perhaps they do it before the cards reach the pit. I find their deck changing procedures odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    It does seem odd that LW's store wouldn't inspect the decks before putting them into play.
    They show them when I play. They load the first shoe of cards in the shuffler and leave the rest face up on the table until a patron inspects them. The patron must stay for the washing for them to be inserted into the shuffler. The fact that LW gets different treatment shows he is getting heat. His play was either too obvious, too aggressive or both. They probably instruct the dealers to treat him differently. Lots of things for LW will be different because of his attitude of screw cover just be obvious and go for the highest EV possible. Countermeasures are being used that LW can't recognize because he never had a mentor to teach him the stuff nobody puts in books or talks about on the forums because the info is so valuable it needs to be guarded. LW thinks all casinos are the same and can't recognize the subtle differences that make big changes in your chances from casino to casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    They show them when I play. They load the first shoe of cards in the shuffler and leave the rest face up on the table until a patron inspects them. The patron must stay for the washing for them to be inserted into the shuffler. The fact that LW gets different treatment shows he is getting heat. His play was either too obvious, too aggressive or both. They probably instruct the dealers to treat him differently. Lots of things for LW will be different because of his attitude of screw cover just be obvious and go for the highest EV possible. Countermeasures are being used that LW can't recognize because he never had a mentor to teach him the stuff nobody puts in books or talks about on the forums because the info is so valuable it needs to be guarded. LW thinks all casinos are the same and can't recognize the subtle differences that make big changes in your chances from casino to casino.
    You're wrong once again. You play SP21, that's why they show it to you. I already talked to the pit boss and asked them why they dont fan the cards face up even when they change it, they said they only show the cards face up in spanish 21 games to see if there are any 10s in the pack mixed in. I suggest you stop assuming and actually learn what's going on. HARRAHS DOES NOT SHOW THEIR CARDS FACE UP IN REGULAR BLACKJACK GAMES!

    Now the reason, who the hell knows, but to me that's some sketchy processing going on. If i remember correctly, harrahs is going bankrupt, so maybe they're just cheating their way out and not giving a damn.

    Also how cna you assume im getting heat and assume im sitting at the table for 20 min to watch them change the cards. As you know im purely a backcounter at least 90% of the time, you actually think im gonna sit there for 20 minutes to watch them change it, or am i gonna be on the run to see which table is shuffling?

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