Why should everything be taken for granted, when we are dealing with new players?Originally Posted by Norm
I have to agree. KISS, for the newbie. No need to strain their brain off the get go.
A long base of knowledge needs to be implanted. Once that base is established, the newbie will build their pyramid on that base. Time increases the number of layers. No need for brain surgery in the first week of play.
" Originally Posted by TthreeFirst off I came to realize that you can't accurately separate betting and playing. Your optimal ramp will depend on how many indices you use so as you add indices you also bet more. The gain from more indices is not just the gain from index play but the total gain from index play and and the increased bets."
Tthree, all due respect a new player reading the above quote could immediately think that just by learning more index plays alone allows them to raise their bets. The player might not be clear on the reasons for doing this and ultimately could possibly be over betting at lower true counts for just knowing more index numbers by itself, all thanks to you for lack of an explanation.
There are canned sims in the tool bar to use (Click "BJ Resources" and then click "CVCX Online" in the tool bar above). The only way they will know how to bet is from the software. Playing with the various tools in the site's tool bar makes learning quick. Learning like Zee, and Moses by asking questions to get answers that may or may not be right and can't be thorough in a brief post is fool hardy (a chapter in a book was what it took to cover the topic). Then asking questions and doing the opposite of the expert consensus like LW causes you to learn the hard way and makes you think you just have bad luck all your life. Read the books like Blackjack Attack, Playing the pros way. Ask questions to help understand what you have read. Use the software tools in the tool bar to quickly learn how various things interact in BJ. Those that try to learn by just asking questions without using the resources available through books and software tools are almost certainly going to fail.
Last edited by Three; 10-01-2016 at 07:40 AM.
I must be the exception. I started my bankroll with $600 seed money. I finally got Cvdata CVCX when the roll hit 85k. Mind you, I got the good books before that point though - have to admit the software opened my eyes.
I sure knew the play of the hand though - and eventually learned indices up the yin yang.
Everyone that made buy growing a shoestring BR through play will admit they were very lucky in retrospect. There are lots of software tools that are free and are not simulators. Although some are canned sim results. There is no excuse for not playing with the free software to get a feel for ow things in BJ interact.
A couple of comments.
Yes, I started with good local conditions at red chip level. The foundation of my bankroll is from that time frame. I only put in another 250 or so. The roll, if necessary, was immediately rep,enishable. As far as free software - at the time, wasn't really aware of its existence.
REKO, KO and Hi-lo are very close in performance. However, adding the true count modifications to KO and REKO for betting only results in KO and REKO outperforming Hi-lo.
Norm's REKO-Full could be improve by modifying and adding some of the indices for higher SCORE. Like doubling 10 vs 10 Norm's REKO-Full had it to double on running count of 5 but the SCORE could be higher if you use a higher index.
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