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For those who use balanced side counts in shoe games (or have used balanced side counts in shoe games in the past), how do you properly split the two counts in your head while at the table? My guess is that using foot position wouldn't work as well (it would be more helpful with a non-balanced side count of aces only), since the running side count would be changing with many different ranks that come out of the shoe.
I saw one recommendation to use numbers for the main count, and letters for the other side count (start at "M", with "L" being a running side count of -1, and "N" being a running side count of "+1" counting using letters instead of numbers), so I could be remembering a count of +4R, for example. Does anyone use this, or recommend?
Arnold Snyder recommended starting the side count at 50, to remove the +/- sign from the side count, so the main and side counts would start at 0/50, and the difference between 50 and the side running count would be added to the main count when appropriate. Example: -2/47 = -5 (combined running count). Does anyone use this, or recommend?
Please, no comments regarding how a side count is not necessary in blackjack- I have specific reasons for wanting to use a second balanced count for one particular game/location. In general, other than this specific game/location, I simply use Halves for Blackjack, and have been using Halves for a few years.
This is my first thread I have started in the forum. :-) Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks!
Waste of time. Move to Halves or RPC for shoes if you wanna go to a higher count. Or just use HiLo and learn to track multiple tables at once. The added EV from tracking two tables at once in the short and long run trumps any added EV you will get from a higher count, even Halves. The playing conditions such as pen will have the next biggest impact on your EV with the third one being speed of game and how many rounds per minute. The count you choose is mostly irrelevant in the large scheme of things. Your hourly win rate really comes down to how many tables you can track at once, penetration, and speed of the game(No side bet delays from other players, how many players playing, quick payoffs, dealer quick to deal, etc.) Of course a higher count will add some dollars to your EV in the long run, but its largely irrelevant when you got other factors that can seriously blow up your win rate if you focused on those things I just mentioned.
Don't be the guy who side counts 7s and aces in an 8 deck game while playing a 65% pen game with H17 and no DAS at a crowded table full of side bets. Don't be that Rob Lowe(DirectTV reference) LOL
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