Well, so much for this thread.....
I'm going to throw some dry-aged grass-fed, grain finished, locally sourced ribeyes on the grill over 100% Mesquite coals and serve it with my delish ancho/chipotle compound butter.
Be right back
Well, so much for this thread.....
I'm going to throw some dry-aged grass-fed, grain finished, locally sourced ribeyes on the grill over 100% Mesquite coals and serve it with my delish ancho/chipotle compound butter.
Be right back
“One man’s remorse is another man’s reminiscence.” Ogden Nash
Like I said the body is designed through evolution to adjust for natural cycles of famine and abundance. Unnatural things like overpopulation, crop failures and atypical natural circumstances like drought or plague are a different story but had to be adapted to for you genes to survive to the next generation. Before sedentary civilization the strategy was to roam with the food sources and go where and when abundance occurs through tribal knowledge passed down over time. After sedentary life and in particular large civilizations were made possible by the cooperation among diverse groups through religious cohesion specialization of trade became more the norm. The food producing specialists needed to provide food for any number of specialized individuals whose contribution as not food production. If your local food production strategy is insufficient and you don't revert to a nomadic existence designed to hit key food sources in season (something that is probably no longer an option as the information was lost over time) the new age sedentary lifestyle will have its casualties.Originally Posted by Bodarc
Actually, there's quite a bit of evidence to the contrary. Like just about anything with nature, there's typically two periods of the day when hunting any type of game is best, Dawn, and Dusk. Ever shot a deer at 2pm with a bow? Neither have I, nor have many other people. Tthree is somewhat right in what he's saying, but he's taking a different route to get there.
When it comes to nomadic populations, not only do they essentially follow the food source, but their hunting/gathering adapts to the food source as well. As many animals have thousands of years of evolution behind them for survival, such as various forms of hearing, sight, camouflage, etc. So too do the feeding times adapt for many animals.
Specifically speaking, Native Americans weren't hunting deer during the day, they weren't hunting buffalo either. Their mornings were, and so were their nights. A typical "plains hunter" would generally sleep/work during the day, and hunt dusk until dawn, or take shifts on dawn/dusk hunts.
Of course, like all things evolution, the introduction of guns to the plains increased the effectiveness of a Native American hunter, allowing him to much more easily hunt Buffallo, which used to ONLY be a nighttime gig for a "plains hunter".
On the whole though, the point is simply that most "hunters" didn't actually hunt during the day, and there's plenty of archaeological evidence to support that, as I'm sure Tthree would agree. A lot of what a hunter did during the day was merely maintenance/upkeep for the tribe, or sleeping. At least until the widespread use of guns.
Africa is a REALLLLLLLLLLLLY bad example. In its current state of affairsresent date, it lacks the infrastructure and governmental centralization to take the next step into what could be a rather starve-free society. Couple that with tribal conflicts, blood diamond/drug trade/etc bullcrap, and you've got a native people whom will continue to struggle for an eternity until they themselves decide to make things better for their people.
Couple that with the serious economic inequality, language diversity, ethnic diversity, and religious diversity, and you've got one of the richest countries in terms of natural resources, but in turn is one of if not the poorest countries, which many economics buffs believe is in large part due to the west/european powers and their firm grip on global "price fixing" of grains and whatnot.
Share please.Well, so much for this thread.....
I'm going to throw some dry-aged grass-fed, grain finished, locally sourced ribeyes on the grill over 100% Mesquite coals and serve it with my delish ancho/chipotle compound butter.
Be right back
Everyone involved in this highjack should just stop. It is extremely disrespectful to the OP. At some point in the future someone might be doing research on this forum and have to read through 15 pages of mostly bickering about penny stocks and the eating habits of our ancestors. There is a place in this forum for such topics, its called "Stuff". Please take it there.
Thanks,
DM
Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes, by then you are a mile away and have his shoes.
There's a ton of evidence in my region that they ate many light meals throughout the day, with "dinner" being the bigger meal of the day, though it could be anywhere from what we'd call now 5PM to 2AM, depending on the feast, celebration, etc. etc. Many tribes, however, didn't have large dinners, reserving those for celebrations and such, and ate their bigger meal as a late lunch.
At the end of the day though, your statement about WHEN they hunted was wildly wrong, and should not be conveyed as fact, regardless of when they did or did not eat a big meal.
Ultimately, this has little to nothing to do with the OPs question, and I feel in part responsible for this derailment, as I had suggested the cheap hot dog meal on fremont street as an economical solution for food, should the OP not get his meals comped completely.
I agree, and I apologize for that, and to the OP.
What I said about hunting doesn't matter and is irrelevant anyway. The main argument was how many BIG meals do they eat a day and compare it to how most of America eats. And to this point you all have agreed with me one or another and not noticed. Light meals dont count, I said fruits and vegetables are ok and that they most likely ate that way if you read my posts clearly and thoroughly. My current diet/lifestyle preaches eating fruits and vegetables throughout the day but not too much.
BIG meals is the question. And up to this point I'm correct. None of our ancestors had time to sit around and eat big meals becaue they knew they would feel like shit afterwards and have no energy and feel vulnerable to an attack. Eating was for the night where everyone gathers around and eats and fall asleep so early in the morning they can rinse and repeat and hunt more. Whether they hunted all day is irrelevant and when they got food is irrelevant. The tribe could have food gathered all day, but doesn't mean they ate big meals throughout the day like the standard American diet.
What Americans eat big meals throughout the day/ T he big problem is most don't have time to eat which has their metabolism be a fraction of what it once was making them gain weight. They eat too much at the few meals they have time for. Perhaps this is a cultural thing for where you grew up and you think everyone else eats like your family. The entire purpose of eating throughout the day is so you don't overeat at your main meals. You are supposed to eat 3 meals and 2 snacks throughout the day none of which are big. Perhaps this is a generational thing since older people went out and played and lived active lifestyles while your generation sat in the house watching TV and playing video games eating the entire time (we had 3 channels of boring TV if we were lucky). They have even taken recess away in many schools. We could eat a lot because we were active just like our ancestors. If you had gone out and been an active normal kid rather than lounging around eating your perception of the norm would be much different.
I don't know why you improperly cut and paste my quote mid sentence to make it seem as if I said our anceators ate big meals throughout the day.
Either way you still made your point and it couldn't have been more wrong. How can you assume I lounge around the house? Regardless if you exercise or you should still not be fat. Everyoneup to their mid twenties burns at least 2k calories just from your BMR if you were to just lay in bed all day.
What? You claim eating 3 meals throughout the day prevents overeating? I would like to see you consune 3 big meals worth in one sitting. Lookong at hoe many people are overweight from your generation is a clear sign whatever you guys are doing is wrong. Dont give me that crap about how your metabolism slows down. It becomea more evident when you get older that you were eating wrong once you start exercising less. You don't need exercise to be skinny.
The most people consume in one meal until they are really full is around 1500 calories. Eat just that one meal and you're in a deficit each and everyday, just make sure you get your daily nutritional needs in.
Last edited by ZenKinG; 06-04-2014 at 03:19 PM.
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