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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post

    Would someone please chime in here.

    moses imagines that if he hits a 12 vs. 5 or 6

    or hits a 13 vs. a Deuce, etc. etc.

    that the pit will identify him as a Card Counter.

    I have tried to explain to him that he is mistaken.

    He also holds that if he requests a $5 table be upgraded to

    a $10 table that he will be exposing himself to extra scrutiny.

    Would someone please chime in here ?
    Sure I will chime in. Firstly, you have virtually no experience in singledeck. Secondly, you seem to be a self-professed expert on a part of the country when you haven't played in over two decades. So come on out, bring that high powered system of yours and will we see what happens when you start hitting 12 vs,5,6 or 15 vs 2,3. You're stretching the point on 13 vs 2, evidently to again make you feel superior. Ironic, the information that "you" sent me said the same thing regarding upgrades...or didn't you "read" it. Thirdly, you seem to defend and promote Tarzan at nearly every turn, yet you don't employ his system. Perhaps you are the one that fails to understand. Since your foot is standing on your ego.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Agree with ZF
    Below are qoutes in an article sent to me, for whatever reason by ZF.

    1. Asking for a higher minimum table invites additional scrutiny, and might also cause the pit to remember you next time. After you have been kicked out a few times, continued play depends on being "invisible"

    2. At the "go for your own stores", dealers resent it, because it keeps "good customers" (fleas that tip) away from their table. You will get increased pressure to tip, especially if winning. In the absence of tips, an annoyed knowledgeable dealer might reduce pen, pref shuffle, slow the game down out of spite, or even rat you out to the pit.

    Basic elements of successfully counting cards at single deck blackjack include:
    1. Recognition that the correct approach to the game is different in many ways than multi-deck games

    3. Accurately counting the rounds that are dealt to properly gauge penetration and be able to recognize preferential shuffling.
    4. Large Bets in short anonymous sessions.
    5. Not becoming a "familier face" if it can be avoided. If you become familier, other strategies must be used beyond the scope of this article.
    6. When is the last time you've been to Reno?
    7. You do realize Flash was at one casino in 1986. I've been here for 7 years making a living on investments only.
    8. There is no big deal in exchanging 13,4 and 14vs2,3 for 12vs5,6.
    9. The big deal is Mista Blue ink sitting in judgement of others when has obviously never given your fine products a glance.
    10. What is wrong with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Firstly, you have virtually no experience in singledeck.
    What a line. Telling an old school player that he/she has no experience in SD. Do you realize that SD was the only game available when ZF was a pup?
    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    2. At the "go for your own stores", dealers resent it, because it keeps "good customers" (fleas that tip) away from their table. You will get increased pressure to tip, especially if winning. In the absence of tips, an annoyed knowledgeable dealer might reduce pen, pref shuffle, slow the game down out of spite, or even rat you out to the pit.
    There is an art to working dealers and ZF is among the best. I have seen him do it. I am not bad at it but ZF is unbelievable.


    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Thirdly, you seem to defend and promote Tarzan at nearly every turn, yet you don't employ his system
    Who does? Only Tarzan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    ZF knows, first hand, the difficulties and results of bulldozing dealers, pb's here.
    The art of working a dealer or Floor is not bulldozing but rather the exact opposite.
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    I've seen the Tarzan video and am impressed with the speed in which he can tell the last 5 cards in a singledeck
    I am not sure what Tarzan used in the video but I have seen him do it in person hundreds of times. He uses 2 decks and counts off 15 cards to predict. Only one time when he was intoxicated and hadn't slept for almost 2 days did he err. Each time he does it for someone they want to see him do it numerous times. He might do it 10 times for each demonstration. Just counting the count is the easy part. Making the most of the information gathered makes the counting seem trivial.

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