Need Help w/ Investors

[HowMany]

I pay the loan back with a 20% interest rate for the inconvenience of being out 275. Just an idea.

I will invest $275 with a 20% interest rate if repayment terms are agreeable and you offer sufficient collateral.

Worst case, I bust on my next two trips.

I say the worst case, you bust on your NEXT trip, then stiff me.

[Mr BJ75]

How about this... you've been playing for over two decades, you've developed a supposedly winning system... Put your money where your mouth is and go make some cash. I don't know that anyone here is enough of an idiot to shell out money to an anonymous, unvetted guy with grandiose claims about a sketchy system that makes no sense to anyone but himself and somehow can't come up with a tiny bankroll to start off.

You're sounding scammier by the minute. Take out a damn bank loan if you're hurting for money that bad. Then again, I imagine we all know why you're so broke...



Actually, worse case is you never hear from the guy again and you're out $275. Worst case is he tells you a story of great success, gives you your money back plus supposed profit from the scheme (actually just some of his own money), gets you to think "hey, there may be something to this", and then goes for the big score, getting you to invest 5 figures in his now-proven scheme. Then, obviously, he disappears with all of that sweet, sweet money.

That's a very Madoff type plan, aka Ponzi. Yes, I could do that I suppose. I could also go into my personal life, divorce and all, but I'd rather not. I'm an honest guy who has put a lot of time in a strategy that I thoroughly believe in. Yes, busting and stiffing everyone $275 would be worst case. I know for me though, the worst case scenario is I bust and owe loan + 20%, which is extremely fair seeing that you can't make half of that anywhere in a year.

[MidniteToker]

So tell me, since you can't work up a measly 5k for yourself, what happens when you bust the roll and owe 6k to your investors?

Seems to me if you can't work up 5k, you won't work up 6k either. Unless you're planning to freeroll again with investors from somewhere else...?

[BJNewbeeNoMore]

I'd rather put my $275 in the circle

[Three]

What is the 12-16 hand bust strategy? Are you playing that you never hit stiffs? Do you always hit stiffs until you make a hand or bust? Are you betting the dealer will bust within 12 to 16 hands?Is your progression 12 to 16 long depending on how it goes and you go bust after that? Do you raise your bet after the dealer busts 12 times and lower it again after he busts for the 16th time?

[redbuck]

Mr BJ, please answer that 12-16 question before you say anything else.
Thank you.

[Mr BJ75]

So tell me, since you can't work up a measly 5k for yourself, what happens when you bust the roll and owe 6k to your investors?

Seems to me if you can't work up 5k, you won't work up 6k either. Unless you're planning to freeroll again with investors from somewhere else...?

I can't work up $5500 in a month, no. Can I pay $6600 back over a longer period, yes.

[Mr BJ75]

12-16 depends on my BR. When working with 12 hands, my example, I had a 1000 BR. I will be working with a 16 hand system on my next trip. The highest I can use around here is 8-10, plus there is an ante. The more hands, the better.

[DBJT]

I can't work up $5500 in a month, no....

LOL why on earth hasn't this thread been moved to voodoo yet? Admin must be really busy last couple days

Listen, Chief: five grand is (or ought to be) really a trivial amount of money for anyone who is serious about playing this crazy game.

A thousand times your min bet is a generally accepted rule-of-thumb for adequate bankroll size. So to sit down at even a NICKEL game means a "serious" player should be ready willing and able to play with $5K. A $10 table? Ten-G's. Quarter game?? $25,000. Being able to put your hands on "just" $5,000 is BARELY GETTING STARTED at this game.

Even if this is just a simple scam it's unimpressive that you've set your sights so low, trying to ripoff "only" five grand from someone here? C'mon man, try harder! You can do better than that! LOL

-DBJT

P.S. By the way you also wrote your system is "made to outlast dealer hot streaks"... but what about CASINO "HOT STREAKS"? If you've never gone from table to table to table and repeatedly had LOSS after LOSS after LOSS at this game, then you've never really played it yet.

[Mr BJ75]

LOL why on earth hasn't this thread been moved to voodoo yet? Admin must be really busy last couple days

Listen, Chief: five grand is (or ought to be) really a trivial amount of money for anyone who is serious about playing this crazy game.

A thousand times your min bet is a generally accepted rule-of-thumb for adequate bankroll size. So to sit down at even a NICKEL game means a "serious" player should be ready willing and able to play with $5K. A $10 table? Ten-G's. Quarter game?? $25,000. Being able to put your hands on "just" $5,000 is BARELY GETTING STARTED at this game.

Even if this is just a simple scam it's unimpressive that you've set your sights so low, trying to ripoff "only" five grand from someone here? C'mon man, try harder! You can do better than that! LOL

-DBJT

P.S. By the way you also wrote your system is "made to outlast dealer hot streaks"... but what about CASINO "HOT STREAKS"? If you've never gone from table to table to table and repeatedly had LOSS after LOSS after LOSS at this game, then you've never really played it yet.

DBJT... Lol, $5500 is plenty, trust me. BTW, I start on a $10 table and I work my way up. Although y'all don't like me to reference my last trip, I'm going to. My 12 consecutive wins were at 12 different tables at 12 different casinos in a row!. If I had 3 losses in a row as you mentioned above, I wouldn't be wasting your time or mine with this.

[Three]

So your progression hits table max or end of BR at 12 to 16 hands. You work the limits the most you can find. You would need a 25 cent table for a straight martingale. That doesn't seem like the case. I can think of a myriad of other progressions that could fit the bill. How does your system gain a mathematical advantage? Or does it rely on luck instead.

[Mr BJ75]

Based on 12 hand system with $1000 BR:

1. Paris +$405
+$405
2. Planet Hollywood +$205
+$610
3. MGM +$265
+$875
4. Tropicana +$225
+$1100
5. Mandalay Bay +$205
+$1305
6. Luxor +$200
+$1505
7. Excalibur +$425
+$1930
8. New York +$270
+$2200
9. Monte Carlo +$330
+$2530
10. Aria +$290
+$2820
11. Bellagio +$430
+$3250
12. Bally's +$365
+$3615

[Three]

What about the rest of the 6 years? If you have been winning so consistently why is your BR only $1K? Or has your system just started working well on the last trip?