Need Help w/ Investors

[HowMany]

"Smart people learn from their mistakes. But the real sharp ones learn from the mistakes of others." -Brandon Mull

[Rudy]

Rudy. Well put. UR Last post. You primarily use KO? Isn't Norm's version REKO a more consdensed and simplified version with better effectiveness? I was just curious how/why you settled on KO?

Moses, I started with KO by Olaf Vancura & Ken Fuchs because the deck estimation was very difficult to me with HiLo, so I bought the book. I didn't even know who was Norm, so didn't even know what was REKO. Of course Norm's version is better but my level of ignorance was huge, I thought there were only 2 counts in the whole world: HiLo and KO, until I found the forum.

[moses]

Rudy: You might ask Norm. But I assume by his design of REKO it is a simplified version of KO and improved version of HiLo. Of course, anytime a person can make more and work less is a good thing. It might be worth a gander for you.

[Math Demon]

I use a 12-16 hand bust plan. Goal is only 3.5-9% to move tables or casinos.

In order to attract investors, inventors of new products or concepts, or innovators of existing ones need to present some basis for their idea as well as some details.

Can you elaborate on your "12-16 hand bust plan"? What exactly do you mean "3.5%-9% to move tables"?


I'm NOT promising anything. I'm very skeptical of unproven methodology. I don't think you can PM until your 5th day, so you will have to post this.

If I see any merit on this, 5k-10k is not an issue.

[Rudy]

Rudy: You might ask Norm. But I assume by his design of REKO it is a simplified version of KO and improved version of HiLo. Of course, anytime a person can make more and work less is a good thing. It might be worth a gander for you.

Thanks Moses, but I'm level 2 user,is the path I choose long time ago but always is good to know about it.

[moses]

Rudy: I'm not up to speed on some of the terminology. Level 2?

[RS]

A count's "level" is determined by the highest card rank value. HiLo is a level 1 because no rank's are about 1. Zen, HO2, are level 2 because they count the faces as -2 and low cards (4,5,6 and 4,5 as +2, respectively).

[AussiePlayer]

Formula; Cash Reserves = .1 of table minimum; prepartion = 30,000 hands practiced with counting formulas that you consider to best fit your game. Time investment = 1,000 hours experimenting and reviewing counting strategy. Then, 6 months of trial and error strategy.


Turning Pro? Add a zero to to the above formulas - then ask this question. The experts in any field will probably tell you they have 10k hours invested.

Add a 0 ??? .1 becomes .10 ???

[MidniteToker]

I also understand the comment one had regarding 10% 90 percent of the time and 100% 10 percent of the time.

Actually, it flew over your head. The comment was a demonstration of how your claim of a streak of 12 wins proving your system is actually bunk and irrelevant.

[RS]

I had a thought today, maybe, just to try it out, I'll try the Martingale system -- after all, you come out a winner almost every time, but there is that one time, that you'll lose it all.

Fortunately, I didn't "try the system". Had I done it, I would be down $25,955.

[Mr BJ75]

Actually, it flew over your head. The comment was a demonstration of how your claim of a streak of 12 wins proving your system is actually bunk and irrelevant.

Actually, no it wasn't over my head at all thank you. His demonstration made perfect sense regarding streaks. Steaks of 10% aren't that important for the 1 in 10 times you lose 100%.

In my example, I was playing on the houses dime at store 5. Being that I have buy in limits placed at the table when sitting down depending on the level I'm on, I can't even dip into my original bankroll after that point. Thus, I had zero risk when sitting at 7 of the 12 tables I visited that day.

Not only have I protected my original bankroll, I protect my winnings along the way. My 3 day system includes 27 stops. I was only there a single day, thus my example is of only 12 stops.

Thank you,

BJ75

[Mr BJ75]

I had a thought today, maybe, just to try it out, I'll try the Martingale system -- after all, you come out a winner almost every time, but there is that one time, that you'll lose it all.

Fortunately, I didn't "try the system". Had I done it, I would be down $25,955.

I agree with you. This is not the Martingale system.

[Three]

In my example, I was playing on the houses dime at store 5. Being that I have buy in limits placed at the table when sitting down depending on the level I'm on, I can't even dip into my original bankroll after that point. Thus, I had zero risk when sitting at 7 of the 12 tables I visited that day.

Not only have I protected my original bankroll, I protect my winnings along the way. My 3 day system includes 27 stops. I was only there a single day, thus my example is of only 12 stops.

Once you get the chips it is your money not the houses. You are risking your money the entire time unless you have free play or direct bet coupons/chips. Why would you look at a bet differently if you were ahead or behind? The guy at the cage isn't going to give you different bills for your buy in and your win.