Need Help w/ Investors

**Mr BJ75** · 08-30-2013, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Math Demon

In order to attract investors, inventors of new products or concepts, or innovators of existing ones need to present some basis for their idea as well as some details.

Can you elaborate on your "12-16 hand bust plan"? What exactly do you mean "3.5%-9% to move tables"?

I'm NOT promising anything. I'm very skeptical of unproven methodology. I don't think you can PM until your 5th day, so you will have to post this.

If I see any merit on this, 5k-10k is not an issue.

My numbers from last time using 12 hand system / $1000 BR and only 12 stops and 4 levels:

1. Paris +$405
+$405
2. Planet Hollywood +$205
+$610
3. MGM +$265
+$875
4. Tropicana +$225
+$1100
5. Mandalay Bay +$205
+$1305
6. Luxor +$200
+$1505
7. Excalibur +$425
+$1930
8. New York +$270
+$2200
9. Monte Carlo +$330
+$2530
10. Aria +$290
+$2820
11. Bellagio +$430
+$3250
12. Bally's +$365
+$3615

**MidniteToker** · 08-30-2013, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Mr BJ75

My numbers from last time using 12 hand system / $1000 BR and only 12 stops and 4 levels:

1. Paris +$405
+$405
[...]

I've got a much better system:

1. El Cortez +$1 billion

Eh, what's that? That doesn't actually say anything at all about how to play, how to bet, how to lock in a win? Well gee willickers, I guess I just put in how much money I'd like to make, and nothing at all about the actual system. Funny that.

**Mr BJ75** · 08-28-2013, 06:35 AM

I am not simply doubling my bet every time I lose. I put my strategy to test this Summer, and I won in 12 straight casinos. Although I believe in counting, you will find few counters that had 12 straight winning sessions of 10-40% each time within 12 hours.

**Three** · 08-28-2013, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by Mr BJ75

Although I believe in counting, you will find few counters that had 12 straight winning sessions of 10-40% each time within 12 hours.

It happens but not that often. The wins are probably much larger on average. Counting, most of the time, is a long grind of with big swings in both directions. You win twice as often as you lose but that depends on how you manage your sessions. When you hit those stretches without the losing sessions the profits add up to substantial amounts quickly. Right KJ.

If only that would happen more often.

**Mr BJ75** · 08-28-2013, 07:17 AM

As an experienced player, can you help me find investors for my upcoming trips in September and October? I'm looking for a BR of $5500 per trip and willing to sell in blocks. Thanks for your your advice and help.

**blackjackomaha** · 08-28-2013, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by Mr BJ75

As an experienced player, can you help me find investors for my upcoming trips in September and October? I'm looking for a BR of $5500 per trip and willing to sell in blocks. Thanks for your your advice and help.

Do you have access to any other funds that you could use? Do you intend on taking a partial stake or are you looking for investors to back you completely?

Also, how long would it take you to save up your own BR? I only ask because it could take a while to find an investor and by the time you do, you might have been able to save plenty? $5500 is not that much.

Most investors prefer you to play with a edge, not based on past performance of a system.

**Mr BJ75** · 08-28-2013, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by blackjackomaha

Do you have access to any other funds that you could use? Do you intend on taking a partial stake or are you looking for investors to back you completely?

Also, how long would it take you to save up your own BR? I only ask because it could take a while to find an investor and by the time you do, you might have been able to save plenty? $5500 is not that much.

Most investors prefer you to play with a edge, not based on past performance of a system.

I plan to stake as much as I can, yet there is no way I can save near that much by October or September. The $5500 should give action to buyers for both trips. Unfortunately, I don't have access to other funds. My strategy and discipline is proven. Thank you for your help.

**HowMany** · 08-28-2013, 07:35 AM

Doubt you find any investors around here.

**Mr BJ75** · 08-28-2013, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by HowMany

Doubt you find any investors around here.

Why do you say that?

**The Dude** · 08-28-2013, 07:40 AM

I agree with Howmany. You're not even playing with an advantage over the house. You got lucky using a betting system--the smartest thing to do is never play again (I guess technically it is smarter to gamble with other people's money if they let you).

**Mr BJ75** · 08-28-2013, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by Caucasion

I agree with Howmany. You're not even playing with an advantage over the house. You got lucky using a betting system--the smartest thing to do is never play again (I guess technically it is smarter to gamble with other people's money if they let you).

You're obviously a math guy like the most of us on here. Thus, I think it's funny for you to say, "you got lucky." Walk into a casino, sit at a game where the odds are against you and then win 10-40% of what you sat down with. Yes, that would be lucky. Now, do that 12 times in a row at 12 different casinos within 12 hours. That is not lucky, that is a proven strategy.