Need Help w/ Investors

[Mr BJ75]

Hi, I'm new to the forum. I'm a former BJ dealer and active player, yet live in TX where the nearest casino is an hour and the spreads are horrible.

I tested my system this Summer in 22 hour turnaround trip to Vegas. I won $200+ in 12 straight casinos with a $1000 BR.

I'm going to Vegas in September and October for 3 days each and need investors to have a BR. Does anyone have any helpful suggestions?

Thank you,

Mr. BJ75

[moo321]

1. Are you counting cards?
2. Do you have a business plan?
3. How do you know your skills are where they need to be?
4. Do you understand how gambling winnings are taxed?

[Mr BJ75]

1. No, I'm not counting.

2. Yes, I have a business plan.

3. I've been ironing out the wrinkles in my strategy for about 22 years and now certain I'm disciple and ready to blow it out.

4. Yes, I understand the taxation.

I'm a former BJ dealer. I'm currently a GM in sales and a licenses financial advisor with a Series 7, Series 63 and Group 1.

[Three]

1. No, I'm not counting.

Enough said. What do you do to gain an advantage or are you simply organizing your wins and losses for your long term loss to create a reasonable chance at coming out ahead in the short term using bet variations?

[21gunsalute]

1. No, I'm not counting.

2. Yes, I have a business plan.

If you aren't counting then your business plan sucks and nobody here is going to invest in a losing strategy.

You're obviously a math guy like the most of us on here. Thus, I think it's funny for you to say, "you got lucky." Walk into a casino, sit at a game where the odds are against you and then win 10-40% of what you sat down with. Yes, that would be lucky. Now, do that 12 times in a row at 12 different casinos within 12 hours. That is not lucky, that is a proven strategy.

When you lose 12 times in a row will that also be a "proven" strategy? I've won 13 times in a row while counting, and I've lost 13 times in a row while counting. All any of this talk of streaks proves is that the game is extremely random and volatile, and variance can turn on you as quickly as it can become your best friend. I'm not impressed by streaks. We all know that one bad night can wipe out the best of streaks. I'm impressed with someone playing with a proven long run advantage, not by losing systems that merely encountered a hot streak.

[Mr BJ75]

I use a betting strategy and take full advantage of the limits in Vegas. I use a 12-16 hand bust plan. Goal is only 3.5-9% to move tables or casinos. Main reason for that is to stay discipline and keep focused.

[Three]

I use a 12-16 hand bust plan.

This is a little cryptic but I think I know what you are doing.

[Math Demon]

I use a 12-16 hand bust plan. Goal is only 3.5-9% to move tables or casinos.

In order to attract investors, inventors of new products or concepts, or innovators of existing ones need to present some basis for their idea as well as some details.

Can you elaborate on your "12-16 hand bust plan"? What exactly do you mean "3.5%-9% to move tables"?


I'm NOT promising anything. I'm very skeptical of unproven methodology. I don't think you can PM until your 5th day, so you will have to post this.

If I see any merit on this, 5k-10k is not an issue.

[Mr BJ75]

In order to attract investors, inventors of new products or concepts, or innovators of existing ones need to present some basis for their idea as well as some details.

Can you elaborate on your "12-16 hand bust plan"? What exactly do you mean "3.5%-9% to move tables"?


I'm NOT promising anything. I'm very skeptical of unproven methodology. I don't think you can PM until your 5th day, so you will have to post this.

If I see any merit on this, 5k-10k is not an issue.

Math Demon,

Thank you for the opportunity. I am using a form of progression strategy, in a typical Martingale you'd be looking at a 6-7 hand or bust if trying to win 3.5% BR per winning hand with the bankroll I would have. My system is more difficult, but has a 16 hand or bust to win the same %. My goal at each table is around a 10% of BR per table to get up. Once I hit the mark, my BR + goal goes in one pocket and the extra goes in the other acting as insurance. My plan consists of 27 stops within days, thus 9 a day. The 27 stops consists of 9 levels, thus I increase my table buyin and minimum after every 3rd stop. I play a very discipline game and never change.

I'm willing to treat your investment as a loan at a very high rate of 20% if for the unfortunate case I go bust. If I'm a success as I believe I will be, I will return to you a 100% return minus expenses.

Be the one guy on here that give me a chance to prove myself.

Thank you

[Rudy]

With all the respect you deserve, it's a shame you don't want to understand what people are trying to tell you. I see that the time I spend on writing you was in vain. 12-session win-streak is nothing, I told you before, we have won more times than that, even months ahead. The math is the math and you can't change that, you're leaving your chips in the hands of fate, the hand of God. Many people for years, has tried to create systems based on betting progressions and all have failed, otherwise we were all millionaires. I personally think that no one is trying to offend you/treat you badly, they are just giving you the tools to not waste your money and your time. I strongly recommend you to describes us how your system works, when to bet, when to stand, when to hit, whe to "stop" etc, etc. or you won't give us the formula? Otherwise, I'm done with this. "There's none so blind as he who will not see".

[moses]

Mr B175: Obviously, you believe in what you do. That is a key factor in any endeavor. But, for obvious reasons, you are running into a brick wall here trying to raise capital. Consequently, you are taking a beating. The reason? Anyone that had the funds to risk have the intelligence to invest their dollars wisely. Plus, perhpas like you, the majority of these people responding already have their own way of doing it. For instance, Rudy uses KO. Why? Because that is what works for him. Doesn't make it the best or worst.

My thought is, since your willing to pay such a high rate of interest on a system you believe is sure-fire, paying a visit with an equity broker might be a better course. If you have equity in your home or sometimes putting up collaterall we get you the funds needed.

[Mr BJ75]

Mr B175: Obviously, you believe in what you do. That is a key factor in any endeavor. But, for obvious reasons, you are running into a brick wall here trying to raise capital. Consequently, you are taking a beating. The reason? Anyone that had the funds to risk have the intelligence to invest their dollars wisely. Plus, perhpas like you, the majority of these people responding already have their own way of doing it. For instance, Rudy uses KO. Why? Because that is what works for him. Doesn't make it the best or worst.

My thought is, since your willing to pay such a high rate of interest on a system you believe is sure-fire, paying a visit with an equity broker might be a better course. If you have equity in your home or sometimes putting up collaterall we get you the funds needed.

Thanks Moses, but ex wife got the house.

[Rudy]

Mr B175: Obviously, you believe in what you do. That is a key factor in any endeavor. But, for obvious reasons, you are running into a brick wall here trying to raise capital. Consequently, you are taking a beating. The reason? Anyone that had the funds to risk have the intelligence to invest their dollars wisely. Plus, perhpas like you, the majority of these people responding already have their own way of doing it. For instance, Rudy uses KO. Why? Because that is what works for him. Doesn't make it the best or worst. My thought is, since your willing to pay such a high rate of interest on a system you believe is sure-fire, paying a visit with an equity broker might be a better course. If you have equity in your home or sometimes putting up collaterall we get you the funds needed.

Moses, I don't use KO, I use ZEN.