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  1. #1
    Zenfighter
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    Zenfighter: LS stuff, while waiting for BJA 3rd edition

    LATE SURRENDER EoR?s

     

    DEALER TEN

    16 15 14 13 12

    A 0.283 -0.046 -0.070 -0.081 -0.093
    2 0.929 0.451 0.182 0.182 0.216
    3 1.377 0.890 0.423 0.164 0.164
    4 2.318 1.318 0.906 0.450 0.153
    5 3.068 2.253 1.406 0.952 0.465
    6 -0.740 3.133 2.494 1.617 1.184
    7 -0.509 -0.683 3.028 2.368 1.472
    8 -0.772 -0.914 -1.064 2.612 1.918
    9 -1.013 -1.125 -1.292 -1.474 2.171
    T -1.235 -1.319 -1.503 -1.698 -1.912

    m 4.066 0.510 - 3.249 -7.286 1.578
    ss 26.155 25.826 30.241 29.926 26.905




    DEALER ACE ( S17)

    16 15 14 13 12

    A 0.147 -0.002 0.002 -0.002 0.025
    2 0.902 0.179 -0.008 0.051 0.077
    3 1.580 0.908 0.213 0.016 0.020
    4 2.259 1.671 1.018 0.276 0.011
    5 2.680 2.335 1.688 0.997 0.251
    6 -0.631 2.963 2.579 1.934 1.250
    7 -1.029 -1.197 2.360 1.938 1.256
    8 -1.364 -1.557 -1.754 1.771 1.309
    9 -1.647 -1.859 - 2.075 2.310 1.172
    T -0.724 -0.861 -1.006 -1.168 -1.342

    m 2.117 -1.622 -5.502 -9.596 -13.884
    ss 23.744 28.159 27.582 22.499 13.501




    DEALER ACE (H17)

    16 15 14 13 12

    A 0.119 -0.012 -0.011 -0.016 0.008
    2 0.676 0.103 -0.067 -0.020 0.003
    3 1.381 0.628 0.079 -0.101 0.106
    4 2.064 1.393 0.653 0.050 -0.211
    5 2.674 2.265 1.547 0.781 0.194
    6 -0.951 2.594 2.135 1.410 0.641
    7 -0.898 -1.052 2.487 2.010 1.263
    8 -1.223 -1.398 -1.578 1.928 1.409
    9 -1.489 -1.682 -1.882 -2.100 1.366
    T -0.588 -0.710 -0.840 -0.986 -1.142

    m 4.382 0.826 -2.892 -6.788 -10.871
    ss 20.595 22.111 22.428 18.667 11.167






    Checking the quality of the tables.

    An EoR?s table is supousedly a fair one if:

    Sum Ei* Pi = 0

    That means that removing a single card times the probability of drawing it summed over
    the 13 different values (tens shall be added 4 times) should be zero. Obviously, by rounding off
    decimals, what you get is a final result close to zero. As long as this final result is no greater than
    +/- 0.01 you have a fair one.

    You will see, that the above tables are all within [-0.003 and +0.003] ad maximum.

    E.g. 16 vs T

    0.283*4/52 + 0.929*4/52 +?..+ (-1.235*16/52) = 0.001 quite accurate.

    Entries, m and ss

    All this is explained with detail in Griffin?s book, you have the same format here.

    Entries = differences in expectations between surrendering and hitting

    m = full deck favorability for surrendering

    ss = sum of squares of the values


    Basic Strategy answers.

    Shall we late surrender T, 6 vs A with the H17 rule in effect?

    A pocket calculator will suffice:

    ((0.119 + (? 0.951) + (-0.588))* 51/49 = -1.478 so we have:

    4.382 + (-1.478) = 2.904 therefore you shall surrender the hand.

    Note that 51/49 is a necessary refinement to adjust for the EoR?s of the full table.


    Correlation of your point count system for the particular hand

    For the above example use again Griffin formula:

    C = (Sum Pi* Ei)/ sqr (SS*ss) where SS stands for sum of the squares of your point count
    system.

    The Hi-lo player can expect then:

    16 vs A (h17) where we have SS = 10, the rest can be extracted from the table.

    c = 8.077/ sqr (10*20.595) solving we get

    c = .562820 (.562762 is the computed one), as the correlation for this play.



    Extracting indexes with Arnold?s algebraic formula

    (m/i)*p + (52/51)*t = count per deck.

    The fraction 52/51 account for the removal of the dealer?s up card, Arnold didn?t used it,
    but what the hell, more exact figures aren?t going to hurt us.

    m = favorability, sign must be reversed (see Arnold?s paper for the explanation).

    i = inner product of the 39 remaining point cards (assuming you?re a Hi-lo player).

    p = sum of the squares of your total point count values. Hi-lo = 40

    t = this is the point value of the removed dealer?s up card.

    Example:

    Shall we late surrender 14 vs A (s17)? If yes, at what count per deck?

    m = -5.502 +0.002 = -5.500 reversing the sign m = 5.500

    i = (4 * -0.008) + (4 * 0.213) + (4 * 1.018) + (4 * 1.688) + (4 * 2.579) + (-3 * 0.002)
    + (-16 * -1.006) = 38.05

    Putting all the data into Arnold?s formula we have then:

    (5.500/38.05) * 40 + (52/51)* -1 = 4.762258 as the count per deck to surrender 14 vs A.

    I double checked this with Wong?s BCA where the true count given there is 5 for single deck,
    the dealer standing on soft seventeen.

    Note also here, that if you?re looking for specific two card combinations holding a 14,
    you will need further refinements adjusting for the specific three cards been removed.

    T, 4 vs A, here the t = 51/49 * (-1 +1 -1) and 3 removed cards shall be added to m also,
    without forgetting the 51/49 multiplier again.


    Easier and more accurate indexes can be extracted as follows:

    ?Please Mr. Wattenberger, could you run for me a full set of ?..??, and so on.

    Approaching Thanksgiving, my best wishes for all the folks from DD.

    Regards

    Z









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  2. #2
    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: LS stuff, while waiting for BJA 3rd edition

    Thanks for a spectacular post! I'll ask Viktor to add it immediatley to "Distinguished Posts."

    Don

  3. #3
    alienated
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    alienated: Re: LS stuff, while waiting for BJA 3rd edition

    Great stuff, Zenfighter. I always enjoy your posts.

  4. #4
    Viktor Nacht
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    Viktor Nacht: Done. ? Thanks Zenfighter! *NM*


  5. #5
    Sharmon
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    Sharmon: Re: LS stuff, while waiting for BJA 3rd edition

    I have bought Peter Griffin's book off of RGE ; will this explain the extraction of indices ? I don't see how the burn card(s) can be excluded in this calculation. If someone explains it please keep it simple , BJ has rekindled a love I used to have for math but it has been 15 years and I am still playing catch up

    > LATE SURRENDER EoR?s
    >
    > DEALER TEN
    > 16 15 14 13 12
    > A 0.283 -0.046 -0.070 -0.081
    > -0.093
    > 2 0.929 0.451 0.182 0.182 0.216
    > 3 1.377 0.890 0.423 0.164 0.164
    > 4 2.318 1.318 0.906 0.450 0.153
    > 5 3.068 2.253 1.406 0.952 0.465
    > 6 -0.740 3.133 2.494 1.617
    > 1.184
    > 7 -0.509 -0.683 3.028
    > 2.368 1.472
    > 8 -0.772 -0.914 -1.064
    > 2.612 1.918
    > 9 -1.013 -1.125 -1.292
    > -1.474 2.171
    > T -1.235 -1.319 -1.503
    > -1.698 -1.912
    > m 4.066 0.510 - 3.249
    > -7.286 1.578
    > ss 26.155 25.826
    > 30.241 29.926 26.905
    >
    >
    > DEALER ACE ( S17)
    > 16 15 14 13 12
    > A 0.147 -0.002 0.002 -0.002
    > 0.025
    > 2 0.902 0.179 -0.008 0.051 0.077
    > 3 1.580 0.908 0.213 0.016 0.020
    > 4 2.259 1.671 1.018 0.276 0.011
    > 5 2.680 2.335 1.688 0.997 0.251
    > 6 -0.631 2.963 2.579 1.934
    > 1.250
    > 7 -1.029 -1.197 2.360
    > 1.938 1.256
    > 8 -1.364 -1.557 -1.754
    > 1.771 1.309
    > 9 -1.647 -1.859 - 2.075
    > 2.310 1.172
    > T -0.724 -0.861 -1.006
    > -1.168 -1.342
    > m 2.117 -1.622 -5.502
    > -9.596 -13.884
    > ss 23.744 28.159 27.582
    > 22.499 13.501
    >
    >
    > DEALER ACE (H17)
    > 16 15 14 13 12
    > A 0.119 -0.012 -0.011
    > -0.016 0.008
    > 2 0.676 0.103 -0.067 -0.020
    > 0.003
    > 3 1.381 0.628 0.079 -0.101
    > 0.106
    > 4 2.064 1.393 0.653 0.050
    > -0.211
    > 5 2.674 2.265 1.547 0.781 0.194
    > 6 -0.951 2.594 2.135 1.410
    > 0.641
    > 7 -0.898 -1.052 2.487
    > 2.010 1.263
    > 8 -1.223 -1.398
    > -1.578 1.928 1.409
    > 9 -1.489 -1.682
    > -1.882 -2.100 1.366
    > T -0.588 -0.710
    > -0.840 -0.986 -1.142
    > m 4.382 0.826 -2.892
    > -6.788 -10.871
    > ss 20.595 22.111
    > 22.428 18.667 11.167
    >
    >
    >
    > Checking the quality of the tables.
    > An EoR?s table is supousedly a fair one if:
    > Sum Ei* Pi = 0
    > That means that removing a single card times
    > the probability of drawing it summed over
    > the 13 different values (tens shall be added
    > 4 times) should be zero. Obviously, by
    > rounding off
    > decimals, what you get is a final result
    > close to zero. As long as this final result
    > is no greater than
    > +/- 0.01 you have a fair one.
    > You will see, that the above tables are all
    > within [-0.003 and +0.003] ad maximum.
    > E.g. 16 vs T
    > 0.283*4/52 + 0.929*4/52 +?..+ (-1.235*16/52)
    > = 0.001 quite accurate.
    > Entries, m and ss
    > All this is explained with detail in
    > Griffin?s book, you have the same format
    > here.
    > Entries = differences in expectations
    > between surrendering and hitting
    > m = full deck favorability for surrendering
    > ss = sum of squares of the values
    >
    > Basic Strategy answers.
    > Shall we late surrender T, 6 vs A with the
    > H17 rule in effect?
    > A pocket calculator will suffice:
    > ((0.119 + (? 0.951) + (-0.588))* 51/49 =
    > -1.478 so we have:
    > 4.382 + (-1.478) = 2.904 therefore you shall
    > surrender the hand.
    > Note that 51/49 is a necessary refinement to
    > adjust for the EoR?s of the full table.
    >
    > Correlation of your point count system for
    > the particular hand
    > For the above example use again Griffin
    > formula:
    > C = (Sum Pi* Ei)/ sqr (SS*ss) where SS
    > stands for sum of the squares of your point
    > count
    > system.
    > The Hi-lo player can expect then:
    > 16 vs A (h17) where we have SS = 10, the
    > rest can be extracted from the table.
    > c = 8.077/ sqr (10*20.595) solving we get
    > c = .562820 (.562762 is the computed one),
    > as the correlation for this play.
    >
    > Extracting indexes with Arnold?s algebraic
    > formula
    > (m/i)*p + (52/51)*t = count per deck.
    > The fraction 52/51 account for the removal
    > of the dealer?s up card, Arnold didn?t used
    > it,
    > but what the hell, more exact figures aren?t
    > going to hurt us.
    > m = favorability, sign must be reversed
    > (see Arnold?s paper for the explanation).
    > i = inner product of the 39 remaining point
    > cards (assuming you?re a Hi-lo player).
    > p = sum of the squares of your total point
    > count values. Hi-lo = 40
    > t = this is the point value of the removed
    > dealer?s up card.
    > Example:
    > Shall we late surrender 14 vs A (s17)? If
    > yes, at what count per deck?
    > m = -5.502 +0.002 = -5.500 reversing the
    > sign m = 5.500
    > i = (4 * -0.008) + (4 * 0.213) + (4 * 1.018)
    > + (4 * 1.688) + (4 * 2.579) + (-3 * 0.002)
    > + (-16 * -1.006) = 38.05
    > Putting all the data into Arnold?s formula
    > we have then:
    > (5.500/38.05) * 40 + (52/51)* -1 = 4.762258
    > as the count per deck to surrender 14 vs A.
    > I double checked this with Wong?s BCA where
    > the true count given there is 5 for single
    > deck,
    > the dealer standing on soft seventeen.
    > Note also here, that if you?re looking for
    > specific two card combinations holding a 14,
    > you will need further refinements adjusting
    > for the specific three cards been removed.
    > T, 4 vs A, here the t = 51/49 * (-1 +1 -1)
    > and 3 removed cards shall be added to m
    > also,
    > without forgetting the 51/49 multiplier
    > again.
    >
    > Easier and more accurate indexes can be
    > extracted as follows:
    > ?Please Mr. Wattenberger, could you run for
    > me a full set of ?..??, and so on.
    > Approaching Thanksgiving, my best wishes for
    > all the folks from DD.
    > Regards
    > Z
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > .
    >

  6. #6
    Zenfighter
    Guest

    Zenfighter: Glad you both enjoyed it

    We have settled down in Southern Spain, since a month ago. I will e-mail you and/or Bettie with the exact address, so as to order a copy of Donald?s BJA 3rd as soon as the book get off the presses, being convinced on the other hand, that you have enough juice with him, to get it autographed before the deliver.

    Btw, intuition is telling me, the next coming year will be a great one for DD.

    Keep the good work, Victor!

    Cheers

    Z

  7. #7
    Zenfighter
    Guest

    Zenfighter: Kind words, thanks *NM*


  8. #8
    Zenfighter
    Guest

    Zenfighter: Re:Minor bug

    Correct this:

    12 vs T where m = -11.5784 obviously.

    While posting online I've swallowed the digits missing here, trying to put the columns in order.

    Nothing else, enjoy!

    Sincerely

    Z

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