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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke8 View Post
    Tarzan should recieve Post of the month "Hands down".

    When BJ is bad, it affects the entire operation. Husbands bring their wives whom likes slots. Friends that bring friends play both slots' and BJ. There is a varity of groups that share in multiple games. They stay at the hotel, they drink and dine. When the BJ player says I'm not going there because of bad Blackjack games, the others will follow him to green pastures. It definetly snow balls in a Bad way for the Casino....
    Of Course they may know this. A successful major corporation is not going to close its doors over BJ rules. They could well lower them and go after BJ players again. They have the infrastructure in place, they have beaches and good weather.

    The decision to close probably came from major demographic studies that shows they cannot compete when so many casinos are propping in so many states and so many of them are much closer to the population centers that they once used to get their customers from. Casinos, like other businesses often contract out to firms or universities to conduct studies and surveys before they either open for business or considering closing their business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    The decision to close probably came from major demographic studies that shows they cannot compete when so many casinos are propping in so many states and so many of them are much closer to the population centers that they once used to get their customers from. Casinos, like other businesses often contract out to firms or universities to conduct studies and surveys before they either open for business or considering closing their business.
    Once the studies are done, the data has to be interpreted and evaluated. This is the point where many businesses make mistakes. And when the changes that they made don't work out, management starts to make excuses. Every reason will be given for the failure except the real one - they screwed up.

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    AC was lucky to last as long as it did. They made money (not counting Trumps’ casinos) because the closest competition was in the islands. In the decades it took for neighboring states to go through the legal machinations to approve casinos, they should have built a go-to paradise that no one else could match. Afterall, they have real ocean beaches and a moderate climate -- not a fake beach in the desert. They had the money and they had the time. But, they just sat on their hands, and counted money without any rational thought toward the inevitable future.

    I’ve always enjoyed the thought of visiting Vegas (not always enjoyed the results). I was in AC the day Resorts opened, and there so many, many other visits. But, I never liked the dump of a city. I never really thought of it as a city.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
    Table game players are flocking to PA casinos for the better blackjack rules.
    No, they aren't (at least mainly). They're flocking to PA casinos because they are closer to home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayer View Post
    No, they aren't (at least mainly). They're flocking to PA casinos because they are closer to home.

    I ditto that. It's especially true about Mohegan Sun Casino in Wilks-Berre, PA. The local folks packed its bj tables eventhough dealers shuffled cards every round continuously with CSMs! I kid you not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayer View Post
    No, they aren't (at least mainly). They're flocking to PA casinos because they are closer to home.
    I live practically right next to AC and will drive into PA over playing in AC any day of the week! I didn't ask all those other players that I've seen and recognized from AC casinos in PA if they were from Jersey or not though. I do know that tables in NJ have emptied out and tables in PA have filled up. Some of them appear to be "New Yawkers" from the way they talk. Many just happen to be closer to home as you said but many like me and those New Yawkers are clearly not from PA.

    It might be a lot like Norm says and instead of stuffing quite as much in their pockets when the haul was juicy over those 27 years or so of exponential gains in revenue, they should have put a sliver of that into making AC more of a destination of choice competitive with budding markets, starting on that project long ago. They could call it the "lipstick on a pig program", maybe the "lipstick on a pig revitalization project" or something like that.

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    When I went to AC for AP mentoring and interaction I rarely played any b;ackjack there. I played plenty on the way there and the way home. When my high rolling ploppy buddies and I go to a casino it must have great BJ rules and high odds in craps. Some cared about 1 and others cared about another and some went wherever the others wanted to go because all destinations offered the same thing at their game. It wasn't long before the ones that didn't care got used to the new destinations and considered them their preferred destination.

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    Bean counters make some of the dumbest decisions ever. The pretty obvious unintended consequences of their decisions cost orders of magnitude more than the pittance they are trying to save.

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    Tarzan, did love your post so much, I made a copy and posted it (with reference) on my French BJ site, Blackjack-Square.com
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    Are you assuming that major corporations act intelligently?
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    Friend of mine just returned from a meeting called by all the casino execs to come up with a way to save AC and increase profits. They finally put their heads together and came up with a game plan. BJ pays 10,000 to 1, Single Deck cut to 4 cards, Hand shuffled, Early Surrender, No Hits, No DD, No Splits Dealer gets 2 cards, player gets 1. They figure the players from PA will hear about the BJ odds and the lines of people waiting for an open seat at the tables will wrap around the building. Free drinks, free cigars, high rollers get a free honey to hang on each arm and everyone gets a free 3 course breakfast. Anyone daring to count his card will be back roomed and severely beat with a cat-o-nine tails.
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