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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Wrong. Most card counters know where they play and don't need to scout a lot. If you have a decent BR and only do wong outs, you just go to your local casino and you start playing. If you live in Las Vegas, you probably have identified where you plan to play.
    And how long's that gonna last, "just go to your local casino and start playing"?
    "Everyone wants to be rich, but nobody wants to work for it." -Ryan Howard [The Office]

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Scouting is important in the beginning but lessens coniderably over time. Once you know, you know.
    Things are constantly changing.

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    I went to a casino location recently to do some scouting and found that CBJN is in error as to the actual conditions I observed. CBJN said S17 DAS 50% pen and I found H17 DAS 80% pen, for 2D, at the first casino I scouted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    If you play 10 hours at 100 hands per hour, that is 1000 hands and If you count cards, varying your bet from say $25 to $400 with an average bet of $100, this means you have put into play $100,000. If, as you say, a win of 2%. Then that is $2000 win.

    if you make $2000 in 10 hours, it's $200 per hour. How many other jobs are you qualified for that pays $200 an hour?

    if it's a 1% win, it's still $100 an hour.
    Zee
    Your edge is a long term edge, not session by session.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Bingo. The "Cheers" experience is the perfect mindset for a ploppy or that the casino wants from a player. How'd you do Sam? Oh, I lost about $500 in 30 minutes but I met some nice people, got 2 free beers, and had some fun. Bullshit, Sam you're an idiot. You coulda went to the Super Bowl for $3500.
    You're right. That "Cheers" mindset is something that many ploppies seek inside of a casino. For me (and most other APs I'm sure), I'm looking for the opposite. I'd like to go somewhere where NOBODY knows my name.
    Last edited by Ryemo; 02-11-2016 at 08:49 AM.

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    Other betting strategies

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    OK, I will bite, would you care to elaborate on your other betting strategies?
    Got you hooked!!
    All jokes aside, I play a perfect basic, mostly at $10 tables using my 1-3-7-15-30 unit betting sequence, also referred to as "Bet Ranging". Will leave table or skip 3 to 4 rounds temporarily after winning $200 to $250 and resume play for another $200 to $250 win. Losing, I will never bet more than $300 before leaving table.
    You can practice that wit any good simulator to convince yourself. If you want a more detailed explanation, give me a call at 970-344-4599.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyike View Post
    Got you hooked!!
    All jokes aside, I play a perfect basic, mostly at $10 tables using my 1-3-7-15-30 unit betting sequence, also referred to as "Bet Ranging". Will leave table or skip 3 to 4 rounds temporarily after winning $200 to $250 and resume play for another $200 to $250 win. Losing, I will never bet more than $300 before leaving table.
    You can practice that wit any good simulator to convince yourself. If you want a more detailed explanation, give me a call at 970-344-4599.
    Luckyike,

    I know you think you have found the Holy Grail but I can assure you that in a game that you lose about 51% of the hands and win about 41% of the hands and tie the other 8% of the hands, that your "Bet Ranging" is the kiss of death. If you really believe in it, PM and we can construct a wager with me to add to your Blackjack earnings.


    This should be moved to the disadvantage forum......
    Last edited by Stealth; 02-11-2016 at 12:01 PM.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    If you play 10 hours at 100 hands per hour, that is 1000 hands and If you count cards, varying your bet from say $25 to $400 with an average bet of $100, this means you have put into play $100,000. If, as you say, a win of 2%. Then that is $2000 win.

    if you make $2000 in 10 hours, it's $200 per hour. How many other jobs are you qualified for that pays $200 an hour?

    if it's a 1% win, it's still $100 an hour.
    I would not play 10 hours to win a lousy $1000!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyike View Post
    I would not play 10 hours to win a lousy $1000!
    Better than playing 10 hours and losing $5,000, right?
    "Everyone wants to be rich, but nobody wants to work for it." -Ryan Howard [The Office]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyike View Post
    Got you hooked!!
    All jokes aside, I play a perfect basic, mostly at $10 tables using my 1-3-7-15-30 unit betting sequence, also referred to as "Bet Ranging". Will leave table or skip 3 to 4 rounds temporarily after winning $200 to $250 and resume play for another $200 to $250 win. Losing, I will never bet more than $300 before leaving table.
    You can practice that wit any good simulator to convince yourself. If you want a more detailed explanation, give me a call at 970-344-4599.
    This is the definition of a Martingale strategy and it will not work out in the long run. The reason this will not work is because you're not increasing your bets with an increasing advantage. This "betting system" is doomed to fail. It looks ok on paper, but cannot succeed in the real world due to table maximum bets, lack of sufficient bankroll and the fact that your bets do not correlate with an increasing advantage.

    You will not gain ANY heat from ANY casino by employing this system. In fact, casinos will welcome you with open arms, because they understand something that you don't; no progressive betting system will ever work in the long run. My advice; do yourself a favor and forget this "system" and pick up card counting. Otherwise, stay out of the casino unless you're prepared to inevitably lose money in the long run.

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    Hello, Stealth
    Well, I have been doing it for 16 years successfully. Never get any heat because pit bosses see me as a Martingale ploppie that will loose sooner or later. OK by me!

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    getting too old to go Holy Grail hunting. Just betting on plain experience.

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    Any LV casino that still offers shoe dealt games.

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