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    Me or the author? My ideas can be found in the ZGI, mostly solid count-related fundementals (I think)
    Yours. It doesn't matter, those things aren't for me, real or no. I need proof.

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    I went to the casino to watch him play, where he proceeded to play at 3 tables and lost money at all of them. He said this was the first time that ever happened and it was because "the clumping wasn't right".
    Yeah, I went to three nightclubs and every model turned me down. Guess the clumping wasn't right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    But Boris has something he calls BJ simulator ... how has he not disproven his own theories?
    Can his simulator show increased house-EV for excess aces and dirty ashtrays?

    Norm are you not curious to check out this voodoo simulator?
    What he is simulating cannot be simulated without making assumptions. Those assumptions are that the system works. For example, how would you sim TARGET? The sim must make bets based on how dirty ashtrays are, how full the chip tray is, etc. But, how can you sim such things? You must have rules built into the logic that sim the ashtrays and chip tray. And, those rules must be based upon players coming and going. That is, they must be based upon the assumptions behind TARGET. So, the sim is self-fulfilling. It is merely telling you want you want to hear.

    A good example is a “simulation” of the Scoblete Five Count Craps System run by Catlin long ago. He explains how he ran the sim “proving” that the system works. Basically, he assumed that the system worked in the sim logic. So, of course it showed it working.

    It’s very easy to fall into this trap. When a simulator is designed, it must make no assumptions other than the rules of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Thank you, thank you very much.
    Is that you, Elvis? elvis-smiley-face.gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Its a quantum thang. The observer influences the observed.
    He can win everytime except when you're watching him.
    I would not be following this guy around. There was one reported case where the observer died and the cat lived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    When a simulator is designed, it must make no assumptions other than the rules of the game.
    Game rule one: I win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zengrifter View Post
    Proof? Why are you an atheist?
    What are you talking about?! I'm no ageist, but I am a little ephebiphobic. smiley-shocked032.gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Moved to the Disadvantage Forum.

    People should know that Don Schlesinger was once associated with JP decades ago when he ran respectable schools. When this crap came out, Don denounced it and the schools. Eddie Olsen was also a part of it and ran the original sims. He later denounced it and removed himself from this nonsense. JP (Jerry Patterson), Boris (Ron Fitch), and others have continued to spout this nonsense for decades despite the fact that no recognized expert stands by it.
    Same Eddie Olsen that published Blackjack Confidential for several years along with his wife Connie? If so, I'm glad that you "exonerate" him because I always considered him to be quite reputable. Any idea what happened to the Olsens' after they stopped the mag? (guessing around 1998) I met both of them at one of the Las Vegas Hilton's Million dollar tourney's several years ago. I have all issues of BJ Confidential (along with the in between "extra" publications) from about 1993 to the last and I would consider selling them if anyone is interested. I would probably want to keep the 6 or 8 issues having special meaning to me because of pictures and results of events that I won or placed in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muffdiver View Post
    Same Eddie Olsen that published Blackjack Confidential for several years along with his wife Connie?
    Yes. I've dealt with them in the distant past and thought they were good people.
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