More Indices or Higher Level Count

[Norm]

Too many words. I have never and would never advise Halves. Some can do it, and more power to them. But, I don't like any count over level 2 personally. But, to most people, level 2 is easier than using side counts by a long shot. Again, up to a particular person.

[bjanalyst]

Too many words. I have never and would never advise Halves. Some can do it, and more power to them. But, I don't like any count over level 2 personally. But, to most people, level 2 is easier than using side counts by a long shot. Again, up to a particular person.

Sorry for the following "long response" but I sort of need this long response to make my HL w AA78mTc case clear.

An important advantage of the side counts over a level 2 count, for example, is the cover play I mentioned. That is why my response was "long" - I concentrated on cover play examples which I think are extremely important and lacking in all primary counts without any side counts added including the level 2 counts you referred to. Also I do not like ASC as they are approximate and difficult to keep. I like plus/minus side counts which are easy to keep and are exact.

Basically I do not care what count system you use and what sims that Don has in mind for his I18 or catch 22 or any other analysis that he has done. If you get kicked out of casino after casino for counting with the stand alone HL or any other stand alone primary count (no side counts added), then all of the work you did to learn counting was for nothing!

I mentioned to you that my friend has been kicked out of around a half dozen casinos using the HL count. He has always been very aware of the pit and takes precaution to try to avoid being barred if he feels he is being watched but it still happens. So even with all of his caution, eventually the casinos tell him to leave. So he leaves for around two or thee months before he even tries to come back and slip in unnoticed again or tries to come back at a different shift with a different pit bass as he was not permanently banned but he is being watched. He does not complain or make any scene but leaves quietly so to keep as low a profile as possible.

But it would be great not to be banned at all in the first place and labeled as a regular loser who is trying to count so the casinos think you are a poor counter. Casinos are not going to bar every person they think counts as over 90% of those who try to count are overall losers. Just a few of these plays I mentioned previously that are correct but seem to be incorrect may be enough to convince the casino you are an overall losing counter and no threat.

I showed him HL w AA78mTc (I am not given him 5m9c for now as I do not want to confuse him - getting him to use the AA78mTc with the HL is a monumental task enough because he did not want to change). After reading what i sent him he has finally agreed with me that this is very powerful and very useful for cover play. He is studying it now and says it will take him only about a week to learn and use and keep the AA78mTc with chips. Surreptitiously updating one stack of chips among the several stacks of betting chips is easy to hide - you are just playing with your chips. Again, adding and using AA78mTc is easy and is not difficult to do at all.

I have been telling him this for over a year now and he, like every single person on this forum, insist that adding a plus/minus side count to HL is too difficult to do and the adding two small integers is complicated!! I really do not get this line of reasoning at all.

Even if AA78mTc did not increase SCORE at all and just added cover play it would be worth keeping. My friend after reviewing the HL w AA78mTc that i sent him has finally agreed with me after I have been telling him this for a year. So your reluctance to learn this "difficult" count is understandable and in line with every other counter I meet. I have meet over a dozen counters over the years and every single counter I meet used the HL and they do not want to switch from the HL to any other count or do anything different than the pure HL and do not want to learn anything new. They are a very stubborn group.

But the stand alone HL will get you barred from casino after casino eventually.

Furthermore Gronbog actually did sims of HL w AA78mTc so besides cover play it also increases the SCORE which is consistent with my calculated increase in HL CC by adding this side counts. Also most of this SCORE increase in blackjack by adding the AA78mTc comes from insurance and standing on hard 12 v 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 as shown through Gronbog's sims which is again in line with my weighted correlation coefficients. So you can use a shorten version of adding AA78mTc to HL with just using AA78mTc for help with Lucky Ladies and Super 4 bet and insurance and standing on hard 12 v 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. LLc = Lucky Ladies count = Tc = Ten count = HL + AA78mTc and S4c = Super 4 count = HL - (3/4)*(AA78mTc). You do not get this flexibility with a stand alone primary count with no side counts.

And just a week study you should easily be able to add AA78mTc That is how long it took my friend Carla to learn to keep the AA89mTc with the KO which she used for the LL bet and she is easily able to keep both the KO and AA89MTc in her head with no need for chips and I checked her out - she did not make any errors either. And Carla is just average so if Carla can do it any devoted counter can easily do it. Keeping two integers in your had and adding them when appropriate for some playing strategy play does not require some world class record in mental gymnastics to accomplish as all the HL counters I meet seem to think.

Also my friend who got kicked out of several casinos and has steadfastly refused to listen to me for over a year and only wanted to use the stand alone HL is now finally studying the AA78mTc and wants to add it to the HL. He sees the advantages of adding AA78mTc to the HL both to increase SCORE and for cover plays.

Also Gronbog only did sims for blackjack. AA78mTc also helps enormously the Lucky Ladies side bet where your edge can be as high as 20% at times. The LL bet is independent of the blackjack bet and so adds a larger sample size of profitable bets made per hour and reduces risk as well. And AA78mTc also helps with the Super 4 bet as described above.