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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post
    I have no idea what you are talking about Freightman, but that's pretty )normal.

    Must be your day off. You’re here early tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatherNotGiveMyRealName View Post
    There are two tables at this place: One six deck, one double deck. I was banned from the 6 deck spreading 1-10? but mainly flat betting so it was a surprise. My bankroll is replenishable so I have no problem playing the $10 games.

    I was not playing a six hour session, this is a new place that I had only been to once previously and I was only there for about two hours. The DD might not be a trap but I’d be willing to bet you that they give you the tap quickly on the DD game as well.

    I have decided to buy CVCX/CVDATA but am waiting because I haven’t decided on CV Blackjack because I don’t know if it has the strategy I use. Until then, I am happy to read and post to further my learning as that is a function of a forum.
    So you were banned at 6D at a new place on only your 2nd trip? Spreading only 1-10 red? How much did you win on each trip?
    Well it's either an extreme shithole, or you are doing something very wrong.
    And buy cvcx...or change the system that you use. Or are you one of the newbies that knows a better system, and is smarter than all of us? From your posting history it sounds like you think you are. That's rich.
    Last edited by Counting_Is_Fun; 10-02-2019 at 07:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post
    So you were banned at 6D at a new place on only your 2nd trip? Spreading only 1-10 red? How much did you win on each trip?
    Well it's either an extreme shithole, or you are doing something very wrong.
    And buy cvcx...or change the system that you use. Or are you one of the newbies that knows a better system, and is smarter than all of us? From your posting history it sounds like you think you are. That's rich.
    I'm not going to let you bully me. Every time you reply with a hate-filled response, I will respond back. I was spreading 1-10 and only won about $200 but was there for multiple hours. It's not a shithole, just a very sweaty joint that I would not recommend even you go to.
    For possibly the fourth time now, I am planning on purchasing the CVCX/CVDATA package but have not decided on CJ Blackjack yet as I don't know if it has my counting system, which is Color-Coded KO, a form of TKO. Not the most obscure system but not also too common.
    It's become a recurring theme in your messages that you think I assume I'm smarter than you. That's been stated several times on these message boards, conveniently all by you. I hope you can find more happiness than you are finding now; good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatherNotGiveMyRealName View Post
    I'm not going to let you bully me. Every time you reply with a hate-filled response, I will respond back. I was spreading 1-10 and only won about $200 but was there for multiple hours. It's not a shithole, just a very sweaty joint that I would not recommend even you go to.
    For possibly the fourth time now, I am planning on purchasing the CVCX/CVDATA package but have not decided on CJ Blackjack yet as I don't know if it has my counting system, which is Color-Coded KO, a form of TKO. Not the most obscure system but not also too common.
    It's become a recurring theme in your messages that you think I assume I'm smarter than you. That's been stated several times on these message boards, conveniently all by you. I hope you can find more happiness than you are finding now; good day.
    You’re right. Don’t allow yourself to be bullied for the troller.

    Now, you’re clearly a newbie. Granted, CVData is an excellent program. However, it is CVCX that will give you immediate and tangible payback. It also seems that your bankroll is shoestring. You can always get a CVData later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    You’re right. Don’t allow yourself to be bullied for the troller.

    Now, you’re clearly a newbie. Granted, CVData is an excellent program. However, it is CVCX that will give you immediate and tangible payback. It also seems that your bankroll is shoestring. You can always get a CVData later.
    CVDATA is expensive but I like the idea that I can create indices and play around with more settings. I would be saving $55 if I bought the package of both now, but that's only if I ever need CVDATA. I'm also contemplating CV Blackjack to test my skills but I don't know if it has the counting system I use. I should just make a damn decision though. Putting too much research into anything is one of my flaws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatherNotGiveMyRealName View Post
    CVDATA is expensive but I like the idea that I can create indices and play around with more settings. I would be saving $55 if I bought the package of both now, but that's only if I ever need CVDATA. I'm also contemplating CV Blackjack to test my skills but I don't know if it has the counting system I use. I should just make a damn decision though. Putting too much research into anything is one of my flaws.
    Test your skills in actual conditions under strict guidelines to keep the cost low. What’s your count system. Should be able to recommend something with indices already calculated. Don’t try to reinvent the wheel.

    Also, if you’re not already aware, learn the difference between EV maximizing indexes versus Risk Averse indices. Remember, most index play rely on good deck estimation, and that’s a skill that comes ahead of a newbie generating his own indices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatherNotGiveMyRealName View Post
    I'm not going to let you bully me. Every time you reply with a hate-filled response, I will respond back. I was spreading 1-10 and only won about $200 but was there for multiple hours. It's not a shithole, just a very sweaty joint that I would not recommend even you go to.
    For possibly the fourth time now, I am planning on purchasing the CVCX/CVDATA package but have not decided on CJ Blackjack yet as I don't know if it has my counting system, which is Color-Coded KO, a form of TKO. Not the most obscure system but not also too common.
    It's become a recurring theme in your messages that you think I assume I'm smarter than you. That's been stated several times on these message boards, conveniently all by you. I hope you can find more happiness than you are finding now; good day.
    Holy shitballs...who is bullying you lol? Just because you don't like a response doesn't mean someone is bullying you guy.
    Anyway, you got banned from your game but won't answer the questions I ask trying to help you.
    Ok for the 1000th time already stop telling us that you are going to buy Norm's software...but you still don't!! Lol
    And maybe you and Freightman should just move in together

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Test your skills in actual conditions under strict guidelines to keep the cost low. What’s your count system. Should be able to recommend something with indices already calculated. Don’t try to reinvent the wheel.

    Also, if you’re not already aware, learn the difference between EV maximizing indexes versus Risk Averse indices. Remember, most index play rely on good deck estimation, and that’s a skill that comes ahead of a newbie generating his own indices.
    I wouldn't call myself a complete newbie; I've been playing for months and have more than doubled my bankroll (partly due to positive variance) and have also been backed off. I'm just leaving the newbie stage, we'll call me an ex-newbie or an amateur-in-training

    The counting system I use is Color-Coded KO. It is similar to Dravot's "The Color of Blackjack" but instead of just knowing the warm line and pivot, I know the triggers at each deck for a true count of 0, 1, 2, 3, and 4. These true counts that are produced are the equivalent Hi-Lo true counts, so I could almost just sim for hi-lo but it be off to a degree I cannot measure. I have only scraped the surface of risk-averse indices but I will delve deeper into them when I grab the software. I just went and read CVDATA and I think I will grab it. I like this statement in the features list:

    True-counting Unbalanced Strategies - Strategies like TKO (true-counted KO) are supported for simulation and index generation.

    Now I just have to decide whether I want CJ Blackjack or not. I'm leaning towards no from reading the features as I don't see it being able to use my system but you never know. It would be an extra $70.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post
    Holy shitballs...who is bullying you lol? Just because you don't like a response doesn't mean someone is bullying you guy.
    Anyway, you got banned from your game but won't answer the questions I ask trying to help you.
    Ok for the 1000th time already stop telling us that you are going to buy Norm's software...but you still don't!! Lol
    And maybe you and Freightman should just move in together
    I'm going to ignore your attacks and try to talk to the real you. Which questions have I not answered? Although I'm pretty sure I have answered them all, I'm happy to answer any more you have, no matter how ineptly written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatherNotGiveMyRealName View Post
    I wouldn't call myself a complete newbie; I've been playing for months and have more than doubled my bankroll (partly due to positive variance) and have also been backed off. I'm just leaving the newbie stage, we'll call me an ex-newbie or an amateur-in-training

    The counting system I use is Color-Coded KO. It is similar to Dravot's "The Color of Blackjack" but instead of just knowing the warm line and pivot, I know the triggers at each deck for a true count of 0, 1, 2, 3, and 4. These true counts that are produced are the equivalent Hi-Lo true counts, so I could almost just sim for hi-lo but it be off to a degree I cannot measure. I have only scraped the surface of risk-averse indices but I will delve deeper into them when I grab the software. I just went and read CVDATA and I think I will grab it. I like this statement in the features list:

    True-counting Unbalanced Strategies - Strategies like TKO (true-counted KO) are supported for simulation and index generation.

    Now I just have to decide whether I want CJ Blackjack or not. I'm leaning towards no from reading the features as I don't see it being able to use my system but you never know. It would be an extra $70.
    See Freightman, he is no newbie...he has been playing for months!!! LOL
    But yet somehow he was banned from his casino on his 2nd trip lol.
    And he has developed his own counting system that nobody has thought of before...not even Don or Stanford Wong lol.
    And Norm's software can't even handle his creation...oh my goodness...what will he do??? Lol
    Last edited by Counting_Is_Fun; 10-02-2019 at 09:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counting_Is_Fun View Post
    See Freightman, he is no newbie...he has been playing for months!!! LOL
    But yet somehow he was banned from his casino on his 2nd trip lol.
    And he has developed his own counting system that nobody has thought of before...not even Don or Stanford Wong lol.
    And Norm's software can't even handle his creation...what will do??? Lol
    You are an atypical bully and I can see why you are unhappy. Usually when someone has been doing something for months (and practicing months before that), they aren't a newbie anymore but I'll give you that one if it makes you feel good. I was banned from this particular casino on my second trip.
    The counting system I use is Nimka's Color-Coded KO, which was created and posted right around the time you were exiting the diaper stage (although I'm not sure that's happened yet). Most counting systems weren't created by Don or Wong, so that's faulty logic. Any other verbal diarrhea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatherNotGiveMyRealName View Post
    I wouldn't call myself a complete newbie; I've been playing for months and have more than doubled my bankroll (partly due to positive variance) and have also been backed off. I'm just leaving the newbie stage, we'll call me an ex-newbie or an amateur-in-training

    The counting system I use is Color-Coded KO. It is similar to Dravot's "The Color of Blackjack" but instead of just knowing the warm line and pivot, I know the triggers at each deck for a true count of 0, 1, 2, 3, and 4. These true counts that are produced are the equivalent Hi-Lo true counts, so I could almost just sim for hi-lo but it be off to a degree I cannot measure. I have only scraped the surface of risk-averse indices but I will delve deeper into them when I grab the software. I just went and read CVDATA and I think I will grab it. I like this statement in the features list:

    True-counting Unbalanced Strategies - Strategies like TKO (true-counted KO) are supported for simulation and index generation.

    Now I just have to decide whether I want CJ Blackjack or not. I'm leaning towards no from reading the features as I don't see it being able to use my system but you never know. It would be an extra $70.
    I don’t know your system or it’s indices. However, if the triggers are close to hi lo, why not just use hi lo indices in the interim.
    Wong’s Professional has excellent tables for this purpose. They are EV maximizing indexes. Shoestring bankrolls should consider Risk Averse. Depending on item, just add 2 or 3 true counts to those indexes where RA would apply. You can refine this later.

    We can expect a couple of more low class condescending posts from the troller, so not to worry. He’s actually quite unarmed for a real contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    I don’t know your system or it’s indices. However, if the triggers are close to hi lo, why not just use hi lo indices in the interim.
    Wong’s Professional has excellent tables for this purpose. They are EV maximizing indexes. Shoestring bankrolls should consider Risk Averse. Depending on item, just add 2 or 3 true counts to those indexes where RA would apply. You can refine this later.

    We can expect a couple of more low class condescending posts from the troller, so not to worry. He’s actually quite unarmed for a real contest.
    I was just playing with my food. I think I've had quite enough of that. My IQ was lowering by the minute.

    I already use Hi-Lo indices but I'm thinking that since KO counts the 7, the indices may be slightly altered for certain hands. This is why I am anticipating index generation software.

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