Which spreadsheet or software should I use for online live BJ???

[BJ_Counter]

Uh...I did NOT say you were lying. I was simply stating you were experiencing variance. It is possible to be up several thousand in the beginning. With that said, I will reiterate that with the count and spread you use with this game, you are making less than what is given. This is a warning to you, not an accusation of fabrication. Unless you have a reason to be worried about my previous post.

Now, you stated in the above that there are sites with 75-80% penetration. What are the rules? What are the minimum and maximum wagers? How many players are there at each table? How fast are the dealers and the card readers? These are things one needs to take into account when attacking blackjack, even in the real world!

What site are you currently betting at?

Hey! Sorry if I misinterpreted your meaning. Yes I understand you're just trying to help and perhaps I'm just experiencing variance in my favor. The other site with 75~80% pen are 8decks nDAS S17 no surrender BJ pays 3/2 insurance pays 2/1. Min bet is 5 and 10 depends on tables and max bet is at least 1~2K. Usually 4~5players at the table on average (7 is max). Speed of the game is not as fast compare to real live BJ obviously. If I play 1 box I would say around 40~50 hph with 4~5 other players at the table but I can play up to 3 boxes at a time with different bet sizing in each box. I play in European sites and they only accept Europeans apparently....

[lij45o6]

Hey! Sorry if I misinterpreted your meaning. Yes I understand you're just trying to help and perhaps I'm just experiencing variance in my favor. The other site with 75~80% pen are 8decks nDAS no surrender BJ pays 3/2 insurance pays 2/1. Min bet is 5 and 10 depends on tables and max bet is at least 1~2K. Usually 4~5players at the table on average (7 is max). Speed of the game is not as fast compare to real live BJ obviously. If I play 1 box I would say around 40~50 hph with 4~5 other players at the table but I can play up to 3 boxes at a time with different bet sizing in each box. I play in European sites and they only accept Europeans apparently....

Still don't like how an 8D game offers nDAS nor even surrender.

In order to find out what the acceptable spread should be (assuming one is crazy enough to even attempt Ap'ing online blackjack,) would require a simulation.
I am not in the European market, but what does the brick and mortar market look like for 21?

Depending on rules, your bankroll, and your current living conditions, one can't really give you any exact action or recommendation.

What does your bankroll look like? What live 21 games are offered where you live? Do you live near a casino or a gambling destination? I feel you will have better luck in a real casino than online, but that is just me. Oh, and what are the rules for 21 in the real casinos?

[BJ_Counter]

Still don't like how an 8D game offers nDAS nor even surrender.

In order to find out what the acceptable spread should be (assuming one is crazy enough to even attempt Ap'ing online blackjack,) would require a simulation.
I am not in the European market, but what does the brick and mortar market look like for 21?

Depending on rules, your bankroll, and your current living conditions, one can't really give you any exact action or recommendation.

What does your bankroll look like? What live 21 games are offered where you live? Do you live near a casino or a gambling destination? I feel you will have better luck in a real casino than online, but that is just me. Oh, and what are the rules for 21 in the real casinos?

The site I'm currently playing is one of the biggest gaming platform in Europe (I don't want to mention any names). I'm a poker player myself for many year now. I don't want to disclose my currently location but there are casinos nearby within 45mins~1hour travel. But I would rather not to go AP in those casinos as I don't want to get banned from entering otherwise I wouldn't be able to play poker there anymore lol. I can spare 10K bankroll on BJ no problem but I would rather not go higher than that just yet as I still have a lot to learn so I don't mind doing it as part time at the moment. Oh and the rules for the live casinos I could go to are 8D (I think there are 6D as well) but all of them have no surrender but allow DAS and can split more than once and dealer stand on S17 with 75~80% pen.

[Meistro123]

is the site you are playing ENHC or OBO? this is an important question with strategic considerations. i am in the midst of a session of online plo right now myself so i will address your questions more fully once i am done, but you need double the bankroll for 3 spots, so 10k. for 3 x 50.

[BJ_Counter]

is the site you are playing ENHC or OBO? this is an important question with strategic considerations. i am in the midst of a session of online plo right now myself so i will address your questions more fully once i am done, but you need double the bankroll for 3 spots, so 10k. for 3 x 50.

Hi Meistro, yeah it's ENHC. Oh and thx for the tips about the BR thing!

[Meistro123]

btw your strike point for the game you are playing is TC +2, which is running count +12 for example with 6 decks left. You don't even have an advantage at TC+1 because of the bad rules (you are break even over the totality of the TC +1 bin).

[BJ_Counter]

okay, well make sure you are using the right strategy changes for ENHC. Which means you never double or split against ace or ten, except AA v T.

I know of an online game that is OBO, ES10, S17, DAS, DA2. The only unfavourable rule is no re-split. So the house edge is only -.24% vs probably -.7% which you are playing. It is a significant difference. So you might want to switch your play to this one.

btw your strike point for the game you are playing is TC +2, which is running count +12 for example with 6 decks left. You don't even have an advantage at TC+1 because of the bad rules (you are break even over the totality of the TC +1 bin).

Oh ok thanks! I'll try to find the right chart for my game or for 75~80% pen game. Btw I don't place any bets when the count is +1 or below as I know it would just be pointless and unprofitable... Usually I only wong in once the shoe is at +3 or above.