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    When your younger

    I guess if your single, in your twenties, it doesn't matter and people don't care. Everyone at that age feels invincible but... You don't stay young forever. The one thing that scares me from playing full time(being that I'm not a spring chicken)and no one seems to talk about it is health care. 'Cause it ain't cheap!

    One serious health issue, injury, and/or some other type of incapacitation. Like providing care for a very sick or injured spouse or child etc. That could eat up a very large, let alone a small bankroll quicker than some bad variance at the tables. Or what you can earn in hourly ev even if you could play.

    I really don't know how to put a price on your health or that of a "significant other" that you may someday have to support with all your financial assets and possibly all of your time. That is why I keep a day job and work the minimal amount possible just to keep my health insurance. And also to show a legitimate stream of income for borrowing purposes.
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    Arnold Snyder, Blackbelt in Blackjack pg. 229 (2005)

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    You know, you don't have to work as an employee for someone else to have health insurance.

    Of course it's expensive, but SOMEONE'S always paying for it as part of the price of having you as an employee. When comparing the attractiveness of advantage play with the attractiveness of holding a Job with a capital J, you have to take into account the cost of matching ALL of the benefits you would receive as an employee.

    Unfortunately, there's a very prevalent way of thinking among many APs that being rebels, they shouldn't pay for insurance, shouldn't file tax returns, shouldn't pay child support, etc. Get with it. Meet your responsibilities. Save for a rainy day. Carry health insurance. Carry disability insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayssplitaces View Post
    I met someone at a poker table in Vegas who claims to be a blackjack pro. However, he told me that his bankroll is only $600, and he struggles to make rent. He wongs in at +2, spreading $10-$50, and he claims that it's working for him. I did ask him to count down a shoe, and he was accurate, so I don't doubt that he can count. When playing poker (1/2 NLHE), he bought in for the minimum and was playing like a nit, just mainly trying to cash in on the casino's aces cracked promo. I could tell he's playing with scared money.
    Yeah, right, real professional.

    Do you know the definition of a successful poker player?
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    One whose girlfriend has TWO jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRX View Post
    Yeah, right, real professional.

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    One whose girlfriend has TWO jobs.
    Good One!
    Beware the fury of a patient man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayssplitaces View Post
    I met someone at a poker table in Vegas who claims to be a blackjack pro. However, he told me that his bankroll is only $600, and he struggles to make rent.
    Sounds more like a poker "pro"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWM View Post
    There is a big difference between a traveling pro, and someone living in Vegas. Traveling is expensive. Air fares, rental cars, hotels etc will eat you up. I think someone moving to Vegas and trying to keep expenses really low and grind it could maybe start with 20. But they would have a much better chance if they move beyond counting right away.
    When you say move beyond counting, are you referring to shuffle tracking or is this sensitive info?

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    The first thing a wanna be moving to Vegas has to learn is how to promo whore.
    Let me die in my sleep like my Grandfather.
    Not screaming in agony like his passengers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roliin View Post
    When you say move beyond counting, are you referring to shuffle tracking or is this sensitive info?
    Beyond counting refers to anything beyond counting. Shuffle tracking is just one of many techniques with a larger edge than counting cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roliin View Post
    When you say move beyond counting, are you referring to shuffle tracking or is this sensitive info?
    If you want to know RWM's opinions on shuffle tracking and a number of other plays, visit his blog site.

    Smart players should want to know RWM's opinions on just about any gambling topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRX View Post
    If you want to know RWM's opinions on shuffle tracking and a number of other plays, visit his blog site.

    Smart players should want to know RWM's opinions on just about any gambling topic.

    What is his blog site?
    Let me die in my sleep like my Grandfather.
    Not screaming in agony like his passengers.

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    It can definitely be done with not a whole lot of money. After I graduated I had a whopping 10K. I also had a partner with approximately the same amount. However, I had NO expenses other than travel, food, and hotel costs. By this point I had already moved into some more advanced plays than counting. I was most likely still playing with an extremely large ROR though, but I really didn't care. I was going to either make some serious money, or get a job with my new degree....and I still don't have a job

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadroch View Post
    What is his blog site?
    Shadroch, I am flabbergasted that you made it this far in life without knowing that!

    www.richardmunchkin.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRX View Post
    Shadroch, I am flabbergasted that you made it this far in life without knowing that!

    www.richardmunchkin.com
    You mean drunk and stupid isn't the best course thru life?
    Let me die in my sleep like my Grandfather.
    Not screaming in agony like his passengers.

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