For HL player who refuses to switch to KO use 5m9c as a side count to HL

[ZeeBabar]

Both wave and BJAnalyst missed the point. The sophisticated software alluded to is not to determine if you’re a counter, but rather if you are a threat as a counter.

Just because one counts doesn’t mean that one is a threat.

+1000! These guys really believe that casinos would like to ban every player that counts....and they are supposed to be pros. Personally, I believe that IF all how to count in Blackjack books, forums, you-tube and more were banned, the casinos would lobby to remove the ban.

[21forme]

These guys really believe that casinos would like to ban every player that counts.

Some do. Some casinos also bar players who move their money around, but aren't counting.

[Wave]

+1000! These guys really believe that casinos would like to ban every player that counts....and they are supposed to be pros. Personally, I believe that IF all how to count in Blackjack books, forums, you-tube and more were banned, the casinos would lobby to remove the ban.

Points of clarification:

1) I am not a pro and never claimed to be.

2) I've never said "...casinos would like to ban every player that counts..." and really never developed or expressed an opinion on that issue.

[bjanalyst]

Points of clarification:

1) I am not a pro and never claimed to be.

2) I've never said "...casinos would like to ban every player that counts..." and really never developed or expressed an opinion on that issue.

It is best to take measures so that the casino does not even suspect you as a counter which is what I do.

I play $15 table minimum, six decks, five decks dealt, S17, DAS, LS, Lucky Ladies and Super 4.

When I cash in, I cash in for $500 and I ask for $400 in green and $100 in red. When I get a chance, I surreptitiously pocket $100 of the green chips. When I win hands that are paid off in green, I sometimes put the green chip winnings in my pocket as well. So, my stack of chips goes down quickly and then I buy in again for another $500 cash making it look like I have been losing.

If there is a dealer change, I then quickly pocket all but $100 of my chips as the new dealer has no idea what I bought in for. Then after losing a few hands I buy in for still more chips for cash from the new dealer.

Continually buying in for more chips gives the casino less of reason to track me since they see that I lose all the time.

[Wave]

It is best to take measures so that the casino does not even suspect you as a counter which is what I do.

I play $15 table minimum, six decks, five decks dealt, S17, DAS, LS, Lucky Ladies and Super 4.

When I cash in, I cash in for $500 and I ask for $400 in green and $100 in red. When I get a chance, I surreptitiously pocket $100 of the green chips. When I win hands that are paid off in green, I sometimes put the green chip winnings in my pocket as well. So, my stack of chips goes down quickly and then I buy in again for another $500 cash making it look like I have been losing.

If there is a dealer change, I then quickly pocket all but $100 of my chips as the new dealer has no idea what I bought in for. Then after losing a few hands I buy in for still more chips for cash from the new dealer.

Continually buying in for more chips gives the casino less of reason to track me since they see that I lose all the time.

I'll keep that in mind when/if I start playng again.

[Freightman]

I'll keep that in mind when/if I start playng again.

Whatever you guys decide to with regards to ratholing is fine, but don’t cash out for more than you colour (yankee spelling) up for.

[Wave]

Whatever you guys decide to with regards to ratholing is fine, but don’t cash out for more than you colour (yankee spelling) up for.

+1

[DSchles]

but don’t cash out for more than you[r] colour (yankee spelling)

Why do you continually think that it's Americans who spell these words with an extra u? It's the British/Canadian spelling that makes it "colour." Really weird. You must know how you've been spelling the word your whole life, no?

Don

[ShipTheCookies]

Why do you continually think that it's Americans who spell these words with an extra u? It's the British/Canadian spelling that makes it "colour." Really weird. You must know how you've been spelling the word your whole life, no?

Don

Since he's Canadian, shouldn't you have ended your post with "eh" instead of "no"?

[Freightman]

Since he's Canadian, shouldn't you have ended your post with "eh" instead of "no"?

Tabernac
I might be from Quebec

[21forme]

Tabernac
I might be from Quebec

I stayed there once. No wait, that was the Frontenac

[Freightman]

I stayed there once. No wait, that was the Frontenac

Probably overpriced. Trust it was first class.

[21forme]

Probably overpriced. Trust it was first class.

Yes, very nice, like an old European hotel. It's a family tradition. My grandparents stayed there on their honeymoon.