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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Actually, I would need to add four options and modify five simulators.
    Well if it is feasible then give it a go. I think it is a worthy addition. In the casino there are players who play right off the top and then sit out a few hands at bad counts and then come back in.

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    Almost no one uses this stat.
    I beg to differ. The MIT Blackjack Teams used this very metric to value their games. They used custom simulators to determine the CE of their play and pay out their players accordingly. Don't believe me? See the Hot Shoe clip below. Also, if you look carefully at the screen you will notice at 1:10:28 their simulator determines CE/Shoe! I would like to see that added to CVData as well.

    Watch from 1:10 to 1:11:24.



    By the way, what do you think of the simulator they are using?


    Doesn't for me in V5 or V6, unless ES10 is turned on. That's the only place in the code I can see it turned off.
    The feature turns off in V6. It even turns off sim to sim. You are missing something.

    MJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ1 View Post
    I beg to differ. The MIT Blackjack Teams used this very metric to value their games. They used custom simulators to determine the CE of their play and pay out their players accordingly. Don't believe me? See the Hot Shoe clip below. Also, if you look carefully at the screen you will notice at 1:10:28 their simulator determines CE/Shoe! I would like to see that added to CVData as well.
    The key word is "used". That was then. Now is now. None of the big teams has asked for this.
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    The feature turns off in V6. It even turns off sim to sim. You are missing something
    I cannot make it occur. Send me a CXCX Configuration Export.
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    Do you mean to say that SCORE is a better performance metric than CE? At the end of the day both metrics take variance into account so they are not entirely different. However CE provides risk adjusted return. SCORE is not without its limitations.

    Suppose you are playing a game spreading table min $1 to max of $20 off a 10k BR. Now you have another game with same rules and spread from $10 to $200 with same BR. The SCORE of each game is identical by virtue of spread, however, CE correctly identifies the superior game and best use of your time. I don't understand how you can trivialize CE. A former manager of the MIT Team once told me they would take geometric CE over SCORE any day!

    MJ

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