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    Quote Originally Posted by moo321 View Post
    Or, just give them ID if you didn't get heat. Is it worth creating a stink over?
    Moo,

    I would ask that question of the Casino. I know for a fact they have threatened arrest on the Rez for refusing to show ID at the cage for a $950 cash out. Now that is a real smelly stink!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouchez View Post
    I know for a fact they have threatened arrest on the Rez for refusing to show ID at the cage for a $950 cash out.
    "You're under arrest."

    "What's the charge?"

    "You didn't lose all your money. That's a serious offense here."

    Certain casinos, including lots of Indian casinos but not limited to that group, have apparently decided that they don't mind pissing off a substantial part of their customer base, as the price of making life miserable for anyone who might have a brain.

    Oklahoma in general has a reputation for being hazardous.

    A lot of casinos have a $3,000 threshold for demanding identification on cashout. That means if you present exactly $3,000, or more. But even in big markets, it can be less in the sweatier low-roller places. I clearly remember one time that the Orleans in Las Vegas CALLED THE PIT when I presented $1,600 black.

    In Nevada, it's a rare case where you risk actually losing your money. The worst case scenario is generally that gaming will back you up, but you'll have to out yourself to get gaming's help. In Indian territory, anything's possible. Wherever you go, the routine is going to be similar. Decide how much you want to present at the cage at one time. If they ask for ID, you say no. If they back down, great. If they don't back down, you have to decide if you'll back down. If you don't, and if all has gone well to this point, the chips will still be in reach, and you can collect them and head out, intending to deal with it all later. Realize that in Indian territory, they just might tackle you before you reach the door.

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    Bigplayer makes an interesting point about how you can buy in for $9990 at the tables but they will get whiney if you try to cash out for small amounts at the window. I've seen places where they operated like this and you have to be cognizant of the sort of action that where you are playing is used to. Apparently some casinos have difficulty fathoming the concept of players walking up to the window with chips... A weird event that they're not very used to? Legally speaking... Will a refusal to show ID at the cashier's window result in an arrest? If you state, "It's not like they asked me for any ID when I was buying these chips, so why are you asking me for ID now, unless I have commited a crime?"

    If this doesn't work then you have no choice but to use the "Jesus strategy" in which you begin sobbing and blurt out things like, "I KNEW it was a crime against Jesus to be partaking in the evils of gambling" and "Will the Lord please forgive me for coming to this den of evil in which the Devil's minions can lay claim to me" between sobbing bouts, saying all of this loudly enough to be overheard by those nearby. Inform them, "I will not cooperate with those in union with the Devil! May I be allowed to go to my car for my bible that I may rise above the vileness of sin...."

    There is also the "Molly Wilkerson strategy"... but that one is a bit more complicated...

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