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    I just play

    I just play, HiLO, I-18 plus a few deviations, DD spread of 1-6 ($25 min tables) and $10-$15 minimum 6 deck tables with a 1 x $10/$15 to 2 x $90 spread. I am not very literate, do not delve into SCORE, NO or other more sophisticated stuff.

    So, the question, what and how should I calculate my success. I just finished my 10th month this year and as of October 31st, I have played 339 hours, had expenses of $7525 and had won $30,750 ($13k over the last 2 months). If I divide $30,750 by the 339 hours, I get around $91 per hour. If I subtract my expenses first and then divide by 339 hours, I get about $68 per hour. If I factor in all the other hours (travel time, drive time, scout time, etc.,) and divide my total wins by the total hours spent getting to the casino and days spent away from home, I get a far less per hour amount. Probably around $25 per hour.

    How do you calculate and is it what you call EV?

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    Don't sweat the small stuff. Just play your game and make money.

    And look on the bright side. You're doing hella better than ZenKing!!

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    EV is what the sim says, but then again, you don’t sim, so how could you have an expected value.
    To properly evaluate, all parameters need to be looked at. For you, your gross, less your expenses, divided by hours played.

    Also for you, you might want to calculate driving trip revenue, less driving trip expense, flying trip revenue less flying trip expense, both divided by their respective hours. You will likely find that your net revenue per hour is less on flying trips, due to additional expense and poor spread.

    Travel time is what it is, and usually an overhead - wouldn’t bother calculating that . What would concern me with your stats is your ratio of expense to revenue, which is far to high.

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    Without knowing all the rules etc it definitely seems you've been making more than you theoretically should be

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    Don't forget to subtract out doubling for less and leaving the table in high counts. Though I haven't looked, I suspect Norm didn't include those options in CVData

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Don't forget to subtract out doubling for less and leaving the table in high counts. Though I haven't looked, I suspect Norm didn't include those options in CVData
    That was funny.

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    Ev is what the sims show you should be making. I think your results are right on track but you expenses are through the roof.

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    i can tell you that w/ those stakes you are way above hourly ev...so how do you gauge your success???...if your happy w/ your results/expenses and having fun...roll on man...but don't expect such success to continue long term...you have a horseshoe buried up your ass!!!

    good luck

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    Thanks, appreciate it. Almost all are classy replies. I was trying to figure out how it compares with a 8;5 job. What it might translate into in comparing it with working part time at a $13 per hour job (that has been offered to me) during my retirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Thanks, appreciate it. Almost all are classy replies. I was trying to figure out how it compares with a 8;5 job. What it might translate into in comparing it with working part time at a $13 per hour job (that has been offered to me) during my retirement.
    Whatever criticisms have been levelled, wheather expense levels or whatever - would you prefer to work for yourself, or reporting to someone and being required to participate in a master servant relationship.

    Freedom is a wonderful thing.

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    Freightman - I think he'd be better off with that part-time job, not having to worry about getting up from the table at the right moment to preserve his $100 win.

    The hard part will be learning that key phrase of his future job: "Do you want fries with that?"

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    Expect a downturn in your earnings any time soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Thanks, appreciate it. Almost all are classy replies. I was trying to figure out how it compares with a 8;5 job. What it might translate into in comparing it with working part time at a $13 per hour job (that has been offered to me) during my retirement.
    Why would you even want a part time job at your age unless it would be something you would really enjoy. You mentioned you had a pension and with social security and blackjack you are probably making more now than when you had a full time job, at least I am. My adjusted gross income was $35,000 more last year than the last full year I was working. Of course, when I was working I was maxing out my 401(k) and IRA's which would of reduced AGI.

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