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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    Knowing a local count in 8-10 cards is absurdity ? Its ST. Its normal game for me.
    As far as I remember, Verite does not calculate such high indeces.
    Fringe indices in small subsets are highly inaccurate and expressing an index like this in tenths is meaningless as indices are non-linear and the exact subset could vary any actual index by a large amount. How you obtained the subset also comes into play as end of shoe and a very small ST PZ are quite different even if you are entirely within the PZ. With this small a subset, it is more likely the round will play partially out of the PZ making the index even less accurate. Use such indices as you wish; but stating here that they are absolutely accurate is incorrect. Actually, there is no such thing as an absolutely accurate index.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Fringe indices in small subsets are highly inaccurate and expressing an index like this in tenths is meaningless as indices are non-linear and the exact subset could vary any actual index by a large amount. How you obtained the subset also comes into play as end of shoe and a very small ST PZ are quite different even if you are entirely within the PZ. With this small a subset, it is more likely the round will play partially out of the PZ making the index even less accurate. Use such indices as you wish; but stating here that they are absolutely accurate is incorrect. Actually, there is no such thing as an absolutely accurate index.
    Here the meaning and the question is simple - what are the maximum indices Verite can generate? TC 10 ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    Knowing a local count in 8-10 cards is absurdity ? Its ST. Its normal game for me.
    As far as I remember, Verite does not calculate such high indeces.
    I don’t know what you and Norm are talking about, but I like the term “local count.” This is closely related to what I practice. To count an 8-deck shoe, I keep a global Running Count as well as a local Running Count. The local count is just the running count on the present table, which is important for playing. The globe RC is only for betting. By the way, what is ST? Do you mean shuffle tracking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceside View Post
    . The local count is just the running count on the present table, which is important for playing.
    That's more work for inferior results. Using a "local count" is like playing with quarter deck penetration. Essentially useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    Here the meaning and the question is simple - what are the maximum indices Verite can generate? TC 10 ?
    Why would you say something like that? Just ran an AOII gen. The range was -36 to 35.
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    I get CVData indices up to the low 30’s.


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    I don’t know a lot about ST, but I could see how you could make use of some extreme indexes.

    aceside, you are making no sense at all. You are going to drag this thread into the disadvantage forum.


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