Would it be possible for a counterto turn losing sessions into winning sessions by...

[MJGolf]

Simple answer: Never

T-Three answer..........OK, I won't do that. (Teasin' T-Three)

But Serious I think you are "overthinking" this a bit. First comps are based upon a "percentage" of your theoretical loss. They will NEVER reach your total loss. So to be able to turn comps into a win alone is essentially impossible. However, if you are a PTPP as some call it here...... Or you don't bet high enough to totally want to avoid being ID'd and therefore don't even want to use comps, then comps can reduce any loss that you have at the tables or increase your win. Rooms and food obviously have a cost. Reduction in those expenses helps your bottom line. But they can NEVER be enough to replace losses.

For reference and fun, I have a couple of links for you. One gives you the actual estimation as a calculator of comps, though I think that BJ is comped at different levels depending upon what kind of player the "house" categorizes you as. I think they have basically three different levels and the better a player you are, the less they comp you. This has been a change in recent years. Basic strategy players do NOT get the same comps as what folks call "ploppies" or John Q Public on this forum. This is from PERSONAL experience over the years. I do NOT get near what I used to get for the same level of betting in the past. The casinos are smarter or tighter whichever way you want to describe it.

Link: www.vegastripping.com/compcalculator/



Here is a link from BJ 21 and is a very GOOD analysis on comp play v. your EV and what it's REALLY worth. And it's from one of our esteemed members, The LV Bear:

Link: //bj21.com/advantageplay/comps/valueofcomps.shtml

[NotEnoughHeat]

I think they have basically three different levels and the better a player you are, the less they comp you.

I think I have read somewhere, that in actual practice, everyone is just given the average player level for a couple of reasons. First, it's easier to do and pit bosses are lazy (are you really going to just sit there and watch them play the whole time?). Second, rating them bad might have repercussions if the player finds out and is offended. Third, it's card to tell the difference between somebody playing perfect basic strategy all the time, and a ploppy who follows it most of the them, so rarely are players rated as good.

[Shadowless]

If you have a host, it's possible to get comped slightly more than your theoretical loss if your actual loss is significant and you're good at negotiating.

Let's say you played for an hour and lost $5,000 betting an average of $150 per hand. Your theoretical loss is about $45, and you're only supposed to get up to 10% of your theoretical loss in comps, or $4.50 (some hosts can do a lot more depending on your relationship and if s/he can justify it). Your host may see the potential based on your actual loss and comp you for a lot more than you're entitled to. For example comping you a meal worth $50 when your theo is only $45.

Casinos don't like to do walking money comps (cash back). You would typically have to lose a minimum of $10,000 depending on the casino to get around 5% of your actual loss back. So you'd get around $500 for losing $10,000 if you have a host who knows your play history and feels that you'll lose more to them in the future. If you're a counter and have a positive expectation, the cash back is a sweetener since you know you'll come out ahead in the long run anyway.