You been drinking, Bosox?
21forme,
i think it’s a little too much with the zeebashing. Like it or not he is going to post. Who are you to say he is anymore addicted then you. Plain and simple engaging in gambling or advantage play still has intermittent renforcement. If you are a solid ap and a winner player do you think they do a better job of telling their brain “hey brain we are an ap so don’t sent out a little bit of dopeamine before we win this bet”. Gambling long enough in any fashion we all will get reliant upon it to regulate mood or be drawn back to it.
Now as humans we all get addicted to some stuff, including healthy stuff. I’m just tired of aps calling other gamblers ploppies or degenerates when in actuality an ap”s brain looks close to a drug addicts brain then the average citizen. The amount of gambling an ap does, most have terrible sleep problems, problems with food ( obese), addicted to exercise, addicted to sex, no social life, failed marriages ect.
bow I wouldn’t normally through this shit in ur face cause I have no problems with you, but honestly leave the guy alone. I don’t really post here cause of know of the noise to content ratio here but I don’t chose just to participate to bully people. It just gets my goat when other apps called other addicted and can’t see threw there own denial just reliant upon gambling we are. I know tons of players who got burned out everywhere who lives went to shit because they didn’t realize how much aping was a phycolohical defense to emotional pain and the casino is just one giant distraction for that weather you realize it or not.
im not going to debate or argue this is my last post on the topic and I don’t mean any bad blood between us, I just don’t agree with it that’s all.
Zee, there is no guarantee any trip will be a winning one. You can make 5 trips and lose on all of them. However, keeping good records will help determine how much you will probably win. What is your average win per hour played? Lets assume you average $50 an hour from past playing history. Then lets assume a trip will cost you $700 and you make 7 trips with each trip yielding 25 hours of play. Seven trips at 25 hours each of blackjack play will give you a total of 175 hours of play, and at $50 an hour you will have a gross win of $8,750. Then lets subtract expenses of $4,900 ($700 x 7) and we have a profit of $3,850.Originally Posted by ZeeBabar
There is a nice little program called "Blackjack Risk Manager" that gives probability of being ahead after so many hours of play. It is easy to use, but I don't know where to buy it anymore. Just a few years ago John Auston was just asking for a donation of any amount and you could download it. Anyway, I don't know if the program will work on Windows 10. I had it on my Windows XP computer and still have it on my laptop Windows 7 computer. Maybe somebody here knows where you can still get it. I don't know where my disk is.
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Also, if you spend $500+ to fly somewhere, how long a trip must one plan on to ensure I recover expenses and make a profit
No offense but the fact that Zee still posts stuff like this, after years on bj21, here or wherever else, shows that he has no concept of ap play and is at best a square ploppy who tries to count and thinks he has an advantage.
There's just no indication anything sinks in, or that he listens or learns or does anything other than "plop" down and play with scared money from the shoebox.
Also Zee,
How many damned times have you been warned against DD play, especially rated, ESPECIALLY in your own backyard for long sessions where you frequent?
Hello? Logic calling...
Maybe playing rated and on DD and counting, for long sessions, for years, finally caught up to you? Probably would have caught up sooner, but the stakes were low enough they didn't really care. Something changed, and they finally got you. New mgmt, new surveillance, new pit, overstayed your welcome, got too greedy, played too long of sessions, played too long alone in HL room where you're the only target to watch, etc etc etc.
I mean...it's just so frustrating to read your posts complaining about what we all warned you about for the last several years.
So hit up Vegas now, unrated, keep it short, fire away and hit and run. Maybe put ants in your pants so you don't stay anywhere too long. Maybe your local places cool off after 6 months or so. I'd give any casino that's counter-measuring you a long break.
But vs arguing with ppl here, you need to understand your errors. I'd much rather see a "I guess you guys were right post" but we know that's never happening. I hope others learn from you, but that's unlikely too.
yea it's absurd the way he complains about expenses but then plans his trips so efficiently.he pays to fly7 or 8 times a year for short trips rather than a few times a year for shorter trips. this would also save him a lot on car rental expenses (which i'm sure he's also terrible at finding good deals on.) he sometimes goes during busy (read expensive) weeks in vegas for NO REASON whatsoever. he's not playing huge where he wants to blend in on a big fight night for example. and he sometimes pays for rooms!
total rewards gives out rooms like candy. get diamond in a day every 2 years for a very cheap -ev cost (or even better through other promos they have) and you'll get free weeknight rooms for a really long time.
I learned a long time ago to check events and convention schedules before planning a trip. Things change during those times. Some approaches you want the crowd, while others you don't. But knowing what to expect when deciding when to travel is a must for determining success rate.
Other than the youngster (who always comes in my thread, I am his addiction) many interesting ideas. Now, to explain again, unlike most of you, I play BJ for a number of reasons and making a small profit is just one of them. I played locally at 2-3 casinos for 4 years (before counter measures took place, probably because 2 of the casinos changed hands, to Boyd's and another) and mostly because I enjoyed the company of regulars, dealers and pit folks. The local casinos were like the bar in "Cheers" and because I aS winning too, it felt like the drinks were free. I kept my winnings low hoping for longevity.
As for Freightman's about keeping expenses low, I try to do it but the RT flight costs about $250, the rental car about $150 and the rest is miscellaneous. The rooms are comped for 3 nights.
Unfortunately, trips have to be a max of 3 nights cause of family and other responsibilities.
I am learning from BJA3 about camouflage, misplays and stuff that I will try and incorporate.
I posted because I now have to change from 4 years of playing in MO, Tunics and Las Vegas. Find new locations, change style of play, leArn to handle back offs and countermeasures.
Same thing has happened to me over the years. My local (honeypot) game got discontinued due to a bunch of us killing it. I'm running out of places to play in Las Vegas (Learned the DD lesson the hard way). So my new rules for BJ are shoe only (6-deck), short sessions and reasonable spread. That being said, my BJ play has really dropped off.
So I decided to take up poker to fill the time locally when I can't get to a decent BJ game. I've always had good intuitions for the game and I've read most of the Ed Miller books (a couple times each). It will definitely get you going successfully in lower stakes games (1-2 NL). Plan is to keep learning and playing at low limit until I feel ready to go out and try to make some money at it.
This was a good idea if you kept to staying under the other tolerance thresholds like amount of play in one day, how often you show up, your top bet, and your spread. I might be missing some. Worrying about just one and blowing the thresholds on others doesn't help. All it takes is blowing through one of them being noticed by the wrong person to get you the boot. You played really long sessions at games that are watched carefully. Eventually they will act even though they know you are no true threat. You can't take one piece of a plan that has many pieces working together and expect to get the plans benefit. Like a football team you re only as good as your weakest link. The other team will make you pay for that one weak link. You had a bunch of weak links in the plan to increase longevity. You probably lasted as long as you did because your approach was so weak and non-threatening. The better your approach and bigger threat you become the more the need for cover. Your EV needs to be high enough to be able to afford giving up EV for cover, or your BR needs to be large enough to afford giving up variance for cover. Of course if you have the EV and the BR you can do both. The cool thing about BJ is when you don't make your top priority maximizing EV you can really structure swings, heat and many other things to the way you like them. Measure gain by making the only difference EV but feel free to take that gain wherever you want to help maximize the efficiency of your extracting money from the casino with little heat and comfortable swings.
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