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    Seriously? I'm sorry, but bonuses and matchplays are by far easily the ripest berries you can pick from a casino. Ridiculous to even suggest otherwise. Maybe your 1% from card counting gets you all jazzed? Or 2% from other AP techniques or whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamblor View Post
    Seriously? I'm sorry, but bonuses and matchplays are by far easily the ripest berries you can pick from a casino. Ridiculous to even suggest otherwise. Maybe your 1% from card counting gets you all jazzed? Or 2% from other AP techniques or whatever.
    Actually the point of my post and my conclusion from the last month is just the opposite of your conclusion, Gamblor. You have to remember, we are talking about low level bonuses that I am chasing in quantity. My conclusion is why get all jazzed about a 47% return on a couple $10 matchplay coupons (EV of $9 and change), if it takes me an hour to get to the location and play them, when that hour's return at my 1% card counting rate is worth five times that.

    I think 21forme expressed what I am feeling, except I don't give the casino's credit for distracting me, I take the blame for allowing myself to be distracted.

    I think BigPlayer has the right idea. It is a matter of organization and taking advantage of opportunities that are truly on my way, but not chasing miniscule opportunities not worthy of the time involved.

    A good example of what I am talking about: Several times a week, I find myself walking up or down the east side of the center strip area. I always stop at the free pull machines in front of Casino Royale where one of the 'prizes' is a $5 matchplay coupon. After a few minutes of chit chatting with the attendant, who is kind enough to give me the matchplay coupon whether it is the prize I actually earn or not, I head inside the usually crowded casino. The BJ tables are almost always full, so I usually just head for roulette, which six months ago they moved from the front of the casino to the far back. After squeezing into the usually crowded low limit roulette table, I make my wager and wait 5 minutes while the drunken dollar players cover the board with their bets. If I am lucky enough to win, its another couple minutes cashing out and pushing back out through the casino. 15 to 20 minutes for EV of $2 and something. Multiple this by 3 times a week and I lose an hour chasing 6 bucks. Brilliant move!
    Last edited by KJ; 03-30-2012 at 10:16 PM. Reason: add-on

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJ View Post
    Actually the point of my post and my conclusion from the last month is just the opposite of your conclusion, Gamblor. You have to remember, we are talking about low level bonuses that I am chasing in quantity. My conclusion is why get all jazzed about a 47% return on a couple $10 matchplay coupons (EV of $9 and change), if it takes me an hour to get to the location and play them, when that hour's return at my 1% card counting rate is worth five times that.

    I think 21forme expressed what I am feeling, except I don't give the casino's credit for distracting me, I take the blame for allowing myself to be distracted.

    I think BigPlayer has the right idea. It is a matter of organization and taking advantage of opportunities that are truly on my way, but not chasing miniscule opportunities not worthy of the time involved.

    A good example of what I am talking about: Several times a week, I find myself walking up or down the east side of the center strip area. I always stop at the free pull machines in front of Casino Royale where one of the 'prizes' is a $5 matchplay coupon. After a few minutes of chit chatting with the attendant, who is kind enough to give me the matchplay coupon whether it is the prize I actually earn or not, I head inside the usually crowded casino. The BJ tables are almost always full, so I usually just head for roulette, which six months ago they moved from the front of the casino to the far back. After squeezing into the usually crowded low limit roulette table, I make my wager and wait 5 minutes while the drunken dollar players cover the board with their bets. If I am lucky enough to win, its another couple minutes cashing out and pushing back out through the casino. 15 to 20 minutes for EV of $2 and something. Multiple this by 3 times a week and I lose an hour chasing 6 bucks. Brilliant move!
    Low limit or not, well yeah I'm not suggesting you drive 10 hours for a $10 matchplay coupon, but we know better than that KJ.

    Having said that your right, still a bit of a hassle to chase these bonuses, but usually well worth it of course.
    Last edited by Gamblor; 03-30-2012 at 11:14 PM.
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    Why are you wasting time cashing out?

    You should have an inventory for these garbage places, and only cash every now and then.

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