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uwhusky: Heat at the local casino?
Last week when I was at the local mini-casino, I wound up winning a grand at the $25-$100 DD table off of $300. During that session I colored up my chips, amounting to around $1100, and decided to take a break. Immediately, the PB gets a phone call wanting to know how much I colored up for.
I decide to play again twenty minutes later and win a couple hundred more. At this time I decide I'm finished for the evening and head for the cage. Immediately, the cashier gets a phone call and she answers "13", presumably for the $1300 I'm cashing out, and I walk out the door.
Is this standard procedure from surveillance? I've played there seven previous times and have won on each occasion $50-$250 before walking out. Counting is oblivious to these people, but I still want to remain in good standing so I can win some more in this place.
I'm going to take a few weeks off from this casino, but I am curious to know if phone calls from "above" are normal when dealing with the amount of chips described above?
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Hollywood: Re: Heat at the local casino?
> Last week when I was at the local
> mini-casino, I wound up winning a grand at
> the $25-$100 DD table off of $300. During
> that session I colored up my chips,
> amounting to around $1100, and decided to
> take a break. Immediately, the PB gets a
> phone call wanting to know how much I
> colored up for.
> I decide to play again twenty minutes later
> and win a couple hundred more. At this time
> I decide I'm finished for the evening and
> head for the cage. Immediately, the cashier
> gets a phone call and she answers
> "13", presumably for the $1300 I'm
> cashing out, and I walk out the door.
> Is this standard procedure from
> surveillance? I've played there seven
> previous times and have won on each occasion
> $50-$250 before walking out. Counting is
> oblivious to these people, but I still want
> to remain in good standing so I can win some
> more in this place.
> I'm going to take a few weeks off from this
> casino, but I am curious to know if phone
> calls from "above" are normal when
> dealing with the amount of chips described
> above?
I would never assume counting is oblivious to anyone anymore.
I have been barred from places that I thought the
same about.
Which by the way, brings me to my next post.
Hollywood
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Don Schlesinger: Re: Heat at the local casino?
> I'm going to take a few weeks off from this
> casino, but I am curious to know if phone
> calls from "above" are normal when
> dealing with the amount of chips described
> above?
Since it's a "local mini-casino," it's possible that your amount is a lot of money to them. So, verifying the win with the pit or the eye is not outrageous. In general, the smaller they are, the more they sweat the action.
Don
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Bettie: Re: Heat at the local casino?
> Is this standard procedure from
> surveillance?
I've read of other such stories on this board and others, so I wouldn't sweat it. As Don says, it may very well be a lot of money to them.
> I'm going to take a few weeks off from this
> casino, but I am curious to know if phone
> calls from "above" are normal when
> dealing with the amount of chips described
> above?
It doesn't even have to be chips. There's a place in LV that has to notify "someone" whenever they give out $100 in free slot play, and this isn't a place that sweats action. Just casino procedure, I guess.
And, btw, Congrats!
Bettie
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Standard Deviant: Re: Heat at the local casino?
Having played a lot at local casinos myself, some big, some small, I concur with the others that the calls were about the amount of money you were dealing with, not your play. Every place has limits. At some I've routinely cashed out several thousand at the cage with no sweat at all, other than having to have a second person come over to verify the sum of the chips. But other places freak if you cash $1k or $2k. Just depends. If it's a really small place, like the others said, you were the biggest thing happening right then, and EVERYONE was watching you.
While the calls might not have been about your counting, that doesn't mean you're home free. The next thing someone might have asked is "How did he win that much? Was he cheating? Was he a card counter? Was someone else helping him?" So they very well might replay tapes and watch you carefully. (And watch the dealer and everyone else carefully!) An astute observer can almost always make a counter if they study your play enough.
So although you might have strolled out to the parking lot without having been made, you might find the next time you go there that by your first or second bet, you get that dreaded tap on the shoulder.
You need to always keep in mind the size of the casino and the level of bets most players make. At some casinos, you don't want to win more than a few hundred or you'll be under a microscope. At those joints, learn to act like your $200 is about as close to winning the PowerBall Lottery as you've ever come, and gleefully cash it out and leave. At big properties, you can win thousands and they don't blink. In short, you have to set your win, and even your loss, limits based on the type of store you're in.
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suicyco maniac: everyone is missing the point
Why would anyone try to play a DD game with only a 1-4 spread especially if it seems like the place is going to sweat a measly 1,000 win???? Just wondering...SM
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Zenfighter: Re: Well said, you seems to got it! *NM*
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uwhusky: Re: everyone is missing the point
> Why would anyone try to play a DD game with
> only a 1-4 spread especially if it seems
> like the place is going to sweat a measly
> 1,000 win???? Just wondering...SM
Thanks for the prompt replies to my original question! It is nice to have a quality forum to collaborate information to improve our games.
Why do I frequent this joint? I do so for several reasons. The first is that this casino is within 15 minutes of my place and I have consistently won there. Secondly, there is only a couple of casinos that offer a good pen DD game within a 150 mile radius from my location. Third, only three casinos offer a higher max ($500) in this region, but they are on reservations and I prefer not to play their weak 6-8 deck games. Finally, my spread is normally 1-4 anyway with my current bankroll, including Vegas, so my personal play/strategy stays the same and I don't seem to arouse any suspicion from the dealers/pit.
In essence, this is the best that's offered around here and I won't argue with success. I will continue grinding out consistent $200+ wins at this casino and the others I play at until I get my bankroll where I want it to be.
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bigplayer: That wasn't heat...just accounting. *NM*
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Coug Fan: You've got mail
I just e-mailed you some info that you might find useful.
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Sun Runner: No shame in that.
> I will continue grinding out consistent
> $200+ wins at this casino and the others I
> play at until I get my bankroll where I want
> it to be.
Rock on.
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