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    Seemore Scagnetti
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    Seemore Scagnetti: shuffle tracking

    I know a lot of people claim to do it.I have little trouble following clumps...but following a single card seems impossible. With more casinos using shuffle machines, is it still practicle for a newbe to bother learning ...or will it, in your opinion be a waiste of time and money.
    thank you in advance SS
    P.S. If not a waist of time where should I begin?

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    Parker
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    Parker: Re: shuffle tracking

    A "newbe" should not even be thinking about shuffle tracking. You must have card counting down cold, to a near-sub-conscious level, and have complete confidence in your abilities, not to mention lots of real-world casino experience, before you consider learning to track.

    In other words, when you're ready to learn to shuffle track, you won't need to ask about it on forums such as this. :-)

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    Charlie_t_jr
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    Charlie_t_jr: Re: shuffle tracking

    > In other words, when you're ready to learn
    > to shuffle track, you won't need to ask
    > about it on forums such as this. :-)

    I hear what your saying, Parker. I have a similiar question as Seemore though. I'm very comfortable with keeping the count, playing in the casino, etc. Lately I've been thinking about looking inot shuffle tracking.

    Now, I know next to nothing about tracking, but I've been paying attention to the shuffles as of late. They all seem to be a "complex" shuffle.

    So, I guess the question would be, is shuffle tracking something worth investing time in learning. Especially if I'm playing the "popular" places, like Tunica or LV...as opposed to finding some out of the way place, who doesn't protect their shuffle?

    Don't most of the major places combat shuffle tracking, and how likely is it these days to find a dealer at the "major" places to take advantage of?

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    Parker
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    Parker: Re: shuffle tracking

    > I hear what your saying, Parker. I have a
    > similiar question as Seemore though. I'm
    > very comfortable with keeping the count,
    > playing in the casino, etc. Lately I've been
    > thinking about looking inot shuffle
    > tracking.

    > Now, I know next to nothing about tracking,
    > but I've been paying attention to the
    > shuffles as of late. They all seem to be a
    > "complex" shuffle.

    > So, I guess the question would be, is
    > shuffle tracking something worth investing
    > time in learning. Especially if I'm playing
    > the "popular" places, like Tunica
    > or LV...as opposed to finding some out of
    > the way place, who doesn't protect their
    > shuffle?

    > Don't most of the major places combat
    > shuffle tracking, and how likely is it these
    > days to find a dealer at the
    > "major" places to take advantage
    > of?

    Like many things, there are no clear-cut answers to these questions. Games with easily trackable shuffles are indeed few and far between. As a skill, shuffle tracking is several orders of magnitude more difficult to learn than card counting, although, like card counting, some people seem to have a natural aptitude for it.

    Since most casinos with exploitable shuffles are unaware of it, and it can be easily corrected, the identities of such casinos are jealously guarded secrets.

    OTOH, tracking skills can occasionally turn an unplayable game into something quite lucrative.

    For the recreational player, it probably isn't worth the hassle unless there are some local casinos with trackable shuffles. For the pro, it's another weapon in the arsenal.

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