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newtobj: losing streaks
To anyone: what is your longest losing streak experienced? (in number of hands in a row) I lost 12 hands in a row during a session last week and that seemed unusually high, I can't remember ever losing more than 10 hands in a row before. 12 out of the first 14 hands I lost, after winning the first 2, I lost the next 12 hands in a row. I know streaks are possible and even common, but a streak of 12 in a row should be pretty uncommon.
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Hal Jordan: Re: losing streaks
> To anyone: what is your longest losing
> streak experienced? (in number of hands in a
> row) I lost 12 hands in a row during a
> session last week and that seemed unusually
> high, I can't remember ever losing more than
> 10 hands in a row before. 12 out of the
> first 14 hands I lost, after winning the
> first 2, I lost the next 12 hands in a row.
> I know streaks are possible and even common,
> but a streak of 12 in a row should be pretty
> uncommon.
One time I lost fourteen hands in a row. These are the times that you must retreat into your happy place and keep chanting "the long run is ver long, the long run is very long..."
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Ouchez: I lost 15 in a row
> To anyone: what is your longest losing
> streak experienced? (in number of hands in a
> row) I lost 12 hands in a row during a
> session last week and that seemed unusually
> high, I can't remember ever losing more than
> 10 hands in a row before. 12 out of the
> first 14 hands I lost, after winning the
> first 2, I lost the next 12 hands in a row.
> I know streaks are possible and even common,
> but a streak of 12 in a row should be pretty
> uncommon.
and then won it all back in 2 shoes.
These things happen, just like winning 15 in a row.
Ouchez
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Parker: Meaningless
I personally once lost 20 hands in a row, playing completely through the pack once in a heads-up fairly deeply dealt double deck game, and well into the second pack before winning my first hand of the session.
By the time I won that first hand a small crowd had gathered to watch "the unluckiest man in the world."
I know a person, usually quite credible, who claims to have once lost 40 hands in a row.
None of which really means anything. Play long enough and you will witness all manner of improbable events.
What are the odds of a table with three players and the dealer all simultaneously getting a blackjack in a single deck game? I've had it happen as well.
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Ed Tice: Re: losing streaks
Assuming that there is a 50/50 probability of winning a hand, then the probability of experiencing 12 hands in a row lost (or won) is 1/(2^12) or 1/4000. This isn't all that rare at all. To lost 20 in a row is 1/1 million but given the number of hands that a serious player plays, you should expect this to happen to you quite a few more times... and possibly with your big bets out!
> To anyone: what is your longest losing
> streak experienced? (in number of hands in a
> row) I lost 12 hands in a row during a
> session last week and that seemed unusually
> high, I can't remember ever losing more than
> 10 hands in a row before. 12 out of the
> first 14 hands I lost, after winning the
> first 2, I lost the next 12 hands in a row.
> I know streaks are possible and even common,
> but a streak of 12 in a row should be pretty
> uncommon.
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newtobj: Re: losing streaks
So, in conclusion, is it safe to say that long streaks of any kind (winning/losing) in a relatively even game such as bj are rare. Long streaks being 10 hands in a row or more. Sure many have experienced them, but how often?
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zfuse: Re: Meaningless
Not long ago I was playing head up with a dealer and had blackjack 7 hands in a row. It was very early in the shoe (8 deck) and the count was poor.
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Radar: Re: losing streaks
> So, in conclusion, is it safe to say that
> long streaks of any kind (winning/losing) in
> a relatively even game such as bj are rare.
> Long streaks being 10 hands in a row or
> more. Sure many have experienced them, but
> how often?
I can say I once lost 8 in a row. Here's how...I always have a loss limit when I sit down and this one time, my limit was $40. I was playing nickels and so my $40 was gone QUICK! I got up, could have been worse.
Now, if I lost 4 or 5 in a row, I get up...I would NEVER allow myself to lose 10 or more straight.
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Parker: Oh really . . .
> I can say I once lost 8 in a row. Here's
> how...I always have a loss limit when I sit
> down and this one time, my limit was $40. I
> was playing nickels and so my $40 was gone
> QUICK! I got up, could have been worse.
> Now, if I lost 4 or 5 in a row, I get up...I
> would NEVER allow myself to lose 10 or more
> straight.
Please tell us how you intend to prevent it. Assume that your losing streak is spread over 3 different tables at two different casinos.
While you're at it, please explain why this is any different from losing ten hands in a row at the same table.
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humble: Re: losing streaks
> Now, if I lost 4 or 5 in a row, I get up...I
> would NEVER allow myself to lose 10 or more
> straight.
This means that once you've lost 9 in a row (on whatever number of tables in whatever number of casino's over whatever number of days) you can never play again. That's a 1 in 500 event, so the end of your career is near.
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Victoria: Re: losing streaks
Six deck, three players, don't know how many I lost in a row but do know I won one hand the whole shoe. Darn shoe was quite positive for a few hands and betting black I lost a ton. An ;hour later I had made most of it up but even if you trust the math, bad cards will effect your confidence even if you still play by the math. Counting may put the odds in your favor but the percentage is still small and the profit is long run. In the short run if you get shit cards, you loose and if you are serious you must be willing to accept this as a fact of life.
I am always friendly with dealers and most pit types even in bad streaks but it is probably decent short term cover to tell the pit that the dealer is just too tuff for you when you leave the table.
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John Wesley Powell: Re: losing streaks
> Six deck, three players, don't know how many
> I lost in a row but do know I won one hand
> the whole shoe. Darn shoe was quite positive
> for a few hands and betting black I lost a
> ton. An ;hour later I had made most of it up
> but even if you trust the math, bad cards
> will effect your confidence even if you
> still play by the math. Counting may put the
> odds in your favor but the percentage is
> still small and the profit is long run. In
> the short run if you get shit cards, you
> loose and if you are serious you must be
> willing to accept this as a fact of life.
> I am always friendly with dealers and most
> pit types even in bad streaks but it is
> probably decent short term cover to tell the
> pit that the dealer is just too tuff for you
> when you leave the table.
Losing streaks, these are the things that try mens souls... They also separate the pro players from the novice players. Why? Because a novice does not have or has not developed the mental toughness to stay the course. Suppose the count is through the roof you've played perfectly, but you've still lost 8 in a row. Ask yourself this; do I have the gonads to push a max bet out there one more time. A pro will do so without hesitation. To be a pro player requires a type-A personality. Assasins, politians and criminal defense lawyers are like this (most CEO's are too). But be mindful that this will also cause you to be an overbearing, win at all costs, I know everything, pain in the ass (like most CEO's). In short there are pro players who play for the money and there are pro players who bankroll the pro players. Which would you rather be?
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Ouchez: Re: losing streaks
> Losing streaks, these are the things that
> try mens souls... They also separate the pro
> players from the novice players. Why?
> Because a novice does not have or has not
> developed the mental toughness to stay the
> course. Suppose the count is through the
> roof you've played perfectly, but you've
> still lost 8 in a row. Ask yourself this; do
> I have the gonads to push a max bet out
> there one more time. A pro will do so
> without hesitation. To be a pro player
> requires a type-A personality. Assasins,
> politians and criminal defense lawyers are
> like this (most CEO's are too). But be
> mindful that this will also cause you to be
> an overbearing, win at all costs, I know
> everything, pain in the ass (like most
> CEO's). In short there are pro players who
> play for the money and there are pro players
> who bankroll the pro players. Which would
> you rather be?
Losing streaks "Rock My World" and I do pull back, a major weakness of mine. But I do believe it best to just stay in and keep bangin, or move to another table and keep bangin.
Good post John.
Ouch/ez.
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